Intense! I am really looking forward to the Finale as well as this weeks episode. Lost has come full circle and is a can't miss for me once again!!!

HOLY FREAKEN MOLY!!
With so much speculation abound, one wonders WHAT THE HELL is spoiler and WHAT THE HELL is foiler.
I must say that last years Finale was an utter letdown so this one better make me poop my pants.
The most intriguing part is that it is a Jack flashback which makes little sense in the grand scheme of things as he has had two already this season. MUST BE SOME GIGANTIC SH*T going down thats for sure.
Gotta stop reading spoilers...
No really I do...
HOnestly I really should...

Interestingly enough, Bonnie and Greta are guest starring in Charlie's episode as well....are they Others or is the finale jam packed with character cross-overs?

I'm thinking that the finale is not only a jack flashback....

Notice Dominic Monaghan is cast.....is he staying by chance? Hes not cast as a guest star...

"'the story will take a turn nobody ever expected,' amongst other things, have fans theorizing into the wastelands of the the absurd."

Well, why wait. Let's begin the fun now. How about this for the absurd?

Since:
Jack walks among us, but is not one of us.
Jack was not on Jacob's (Dharma's) list.

Then:
Jack is Penelope's plant into the Dharma project. She could have found out the plan for the next shipment of "lab rats" to the island through spies in her daddy's company. She could have gotten Jack on the plane and have him marked for placement on the island. Therefore, Jack would also know that Naomi is lying.

And, The song that Charlie writes while being tortured is a big hit on the outside world.

absurd.... like ben being born on the island that once was mainland oregon in an alternate universe? or in the clouds...an island in the clouds, hovering gracefully above portland?

that is what i'd call absurd. how absurd are we talking here?

15 more days and its all over till next year!

Jack is an Other and has authority over Ben.

The song Charlie writes while being tortured is called "My Humps."

It's interesting that Christian won't be in this episode...

Jack landed hundreds of feet away from the plane in the pilot, landing in a bamboo grove that was barely disturbed. Jack truly does not walk amongst them. Perhaps we are finally going to get some explanation for this. (Don't forget to vote!)

Charlie may only appear in the 'previously, on Lost' reprise. They'd still need to give Dominic Monaghan a full credit for that, wouldn't they?

Agggghhh!!! It's too much! First off, I've gotta believe that, as cool as it is to think that there was a master plan, Jack waking up in a calm bamboo grove had MORE to do with a "Cool opening" then part of the overall mythology.

Remember, they had no idea that this show would even be bought serialized after the pilot (this is, after all, one of the most EXPENSIVE shows to make).

Second, with all the the rumors about who dies, it seems clear to me that:
- Rousseau dies. It's a no brainer. Just trust me.
- Ben dies. HE'S actually the audience FAVORITE who dies. It has to be this way, and most everything that has happened the past 4-5 episodes spells this out clearly.
- Does Charlie actually die, or is this all some damn setup? Who knows - we know 1 original tribe member dies, maybe two, which brings me to...
- Because of the time travel setup, there are NO, and I mean NO guarantees that when we hear that "4 or 5" people die in the finale, they do actually die... to exist and return next season, from whatever alternate timeline these dudes created. Which brings me to my last point thought -
- Someone, and I don't know who (Boone, Shannon, Libby, Ethan, etc.) will be back, in the flesh, as a regular castmember (NOT only in flashbacks), early next season.

Anybody want to bet?

C.C and D.L said that once someone dies they stay dead - apart from flashbacks.
But if its true MR EKO (EST REX)

Which group will Jack be fighting?
1- The Others: Ben, Alpert, Tom, Locke etc.?
2- The dishevelled (possibly subterranean) island dwellers, who may be ex-Dharma survivors or simply original inhabitants?
3- Naomi's 'rescue' team, who are just as likely Dharma operatives here to purge the hostiles (Ben's group) who have had control of the island for the last 15 years or so?

Will the schism among the tailies involve a choice between aligning with Jack and joining Locke on a pilgrimage to the heart of the island (and also to safety)?

What role will Walt play in the finale?

Who's excited??

im going to have to agree with tabularasa that jack is a plant by penelope, as its the only real valid gamechanger I have heard, thats plausable.
Sayid and Ben are goners, Charlie im not so sure on.

In the episode “The Brig” a lot can be told by facial expressions. More specifically Richards, Cindy’s, and one or two of the Others. Think back to the scene where Locke fails to kill his father, he steps down from the sacrificial pole and walks away in shame. The surrounding Others facial expressions have two sides to them. 1.) Some of the Others look at Locke with disappointment. 2.) Some of the Others look at Locke with a slight smile of approval (Cindy, Richard, and some unknown person). This one quick scene tells me that the Others will break off into two groups, Ben will have his followers, and Locke will has his own (including Richard, Cindy, maybe Tom, maybe Sawyer?). Just as 815 will split into groups, the two leaders being Jack and Desmond.

Now think back to the conversation on the hill top between Locke and Richard. Locke asks him something to the extent of “Why me?” … Now that’s when u need to go back and watch Richard’s reaction to that question, his face and the way he answers it means so much. He is tempted to tell Locke just how important he is and that some of the Others including himself have been waiting for him to join them. Instead, he looks away, bites his lip, and decides that Locke isn’t quiet ready to be told this information (think of Neo in the matrix). Locke is the one they’ve been waiting for, he just isn’t ready to hear that yet, so Richard chooses his words carefully, using the word “Special” when we know he means much much more then that.

The Others and the survivors would have to trust each other and team up in order to prepare against Dharma (who is coming because communications went down and the button isn't being pushed ((Naomi is Dharma)) )

im going to have to agree with tabularasa that jack is a plant by penelope, as its the only real valid gamechanger I have heard, thats plausable.
Sayid and Ben are goners, Charlie im not so sure on.

Posted by Sheepboy | May 8, 2007 7:43 AM Reply to this comment

I don't see that happening AT ALL. If that is the game changer, then this will be one boring finale. People, listen to what they are saying, you all are stuck on simple things like someone being a plant, they are focused on much larger issues like time not being what we think it is and other weird pseudo science type explanations. Think Big!

Then offer something up. Since we are to be "...theorizing into the wastelands of the the absurd." Venture into the absurd.

I think the absurd thing will be after Charlie is dead, his song, that came to him on the island, is a big hit in the outside world.

And, if Jack was not supposed to be on the island, but was placed there as a mole for Penny, then that would be a game changer.

...so would finding Marvin Candle still on the island. But, I am holding firm to Jack being a plant. It explains a great deal about his actions on the island.

Jack is not a plant of any sort! We KNOW the plane was accidently crashed when Des missed entering the numbers in time.

Des is not a plant of any sort! We KNOW his boat crashed on the island by accident. He was captured by Inman and is NOT a part of Dharma.

Naomi is not a Dharma! She was sent by Penny. That is why she has a picture of Desmond and Penny.

EasyGoer:
I think you're in for more surprises than the rest of us for the next three weeks! Enjoy!

Ah EasyGoer, except that Widmore is connected to Dharma so Penny's mission to find Desmond could have been discovered and hijacked by her father. Naomi's account could just as easily be a convenient subterfuge. If Sayid is suspicious then so am I...

I agree that Jack is not planted by Penny. The plane crashed because of Desmond not pushing the button. I don't think that Naomi is Dharma. She probably works for one of the Widmore companies, but then again she said she hadn't met Penny. Maybe she works for Paik's company. I need to rewatch the episode, but do we know it was Penny and not her father who sent her?

This is a good point, as Ben may have veered off the path he once set for his "Band of Others" (spinoff HBO series). He may have tried to get Locke to kill Cooper, so that those who are disenchanted with him would no longer look at Locke in such high regard (Alpert says, "He was trying to humiliate you"). The disappointed faces would of course be those who are loyal to Ben...

Another clue from the Brig tells us that Ben know's of Richard's influence on Locke. Ben knows that Richard had a little chat with locke, the clue is again, in a facial expression and in the sharp words he uses...

Locke:(to ben as ben is walking away back turned heading out with the rest of the Others leaving locke behind): "If your trying to make me look bad infront of everyone or trying to Embarrass me-"

Ben: (doesn't turn around to even look at locke untill Locke says the word "embarrass" ((which is what Richard told him was Ben's intensions)) Ben then quickly whips around faces locke and raises his voice in question: "NOW where would you get a Ridiculous idea like that?!"

That's really all Ben needed to hear, he knows damn well this wasn't Locke's train of thought the moment Locke uttered those words. Ben's very quick, very sharp, he catches EVERYTHING. He knows Richard is now supporting Locke... So just watch out for Ben, the master chess player. Can't wait to see what's up his sleeve next.

Go back and re watch this, you'll quickly understand what im saying, and you'll see for urself!

Dharma is coming, as i stated a while ago. There is always a contingency plan when comm goes down, and for the comm on the island to go down, it can be for 2 reasons (1) A typhoon or tsunami knocks comm down. (2) There was a breach of security. Well Dharma knows it had nothing to do with weather as I am sure they know how to monitor weather reports. There is going to be a battle for the island, and penelope is going to appear in a jack flashback, or on the island. I think the game changer may be that the others and 815ers band together to fight off dharma, but we know that aint happening...

oh my god! i cant believe what happened to poulo and nicky! they are alive but covered in sand thats really frightening

alive? not any more they aren't!

Behind the curtain there is a mirror...

So when Ben reveals Jacob to Locke he sees a magnificent and fully realised version of himself.

Then it's up to us to decide whether it's literal or a metaphor; whether it's a manifestation of cerberus, a psychic vision, or a future John Locke who has travelled back through time - perhaps as the result of some cataclysmic event at the end of season 6?

I'm betting these losties die:

Charlie, lots of speculation, just too much for it not to be true

Kate, because they are tight in the outside world

Hurley, lots of hints dropped that he is a big part of the finale, and now rumors that some fan favorite sacrafices himself. I won't be sad if he goes, I don't like his character at all.

Hello friends,

A couple of minutes ago i found a little movie on the ThEmIsFiTiShErE of the newsflash that Oceanic 815 was found. I'm not 100% sure that it's real, but it's impresive! Any thoughts on this???

O.K. Locke is dead, or so it seems. Ben helped to murder everyone in the Dharma Initiative because he had an abusive father. He even helped to kill the girl who loved him. Richard Alpert is an original islander and ageless, so it seems. Now we know why the female Others had uterus' that seem 70 to 80 years old. They are at least that old. The original islanders may have been survivors of the crash of the "Black Rock" and the island made them immortal, at least those who survived. Did the Dharma folks try to experiment on them and did they rebel? Is that what started the war between them. The island reveals ghosts to Ben and Jack, and even Kate. Does that make them "Others material"? Is Jacob a ghost? Perhaps he was the captain of the Black Rock and still leads his crew. Maybe Sun isn't going to die because she isn't an Other and therefore isn't too old to have children. Will Jacob have a spin-off show of his own? A one hour episode will have 5 minute vignettes of Jacob's empty chair interrupted with 10 minute commercial breaks. O.K., that's a smart-ass critism of the heavy commercials in this last, and some other episodes. Why can't they just charge more per minute and have more story time? I'll write more when I think of more to say.

I just have this weird feeling that part of the big surprise is going to be the revelation that Jin speaks fluent English...

Yeah, but when they appear to die but don't because the fence was set on stun, what does that mean? Or when Ben was born on the island and suddenly isn't because he was lying, what conclusions can you draw?