I don't think there is any question that that is Terry O'Quinn!

It's Dennis Hopper!

where did that pic come from?

There's something on his shoulder or back, like a monkey (Joop).

Actually (someone mentioned this in a previous thread)...it looks like Kris Kristoferson

Holy mother of all that is divine it IS locke! That is definitely terry o quinn! Is this really the real picture because i dont want to get my hopes too high incase it isnt:(

I think it looks a lot like Sean Connery? Thoughts...

Sure this is real, Doc? The front looks mighty weird....

I don't think that is Locke. The mouth looks too different.

If that's a monkey, the original (Locke?) had to be connected to the Black Rock somehow. The whole pirate with a monkey on his shoulder has been done to all hell though really...hasn't it?

PS. Please gods of LOST, do not let Jacob be John Locke with a monkey on his shoulder.

It can't possibly be Joop because Joop is an orangutan. Orangutans are huge and if there was one on your face you'd know it. They're way too huge to perch on your shoulder.

Not Joop, but it does look like a monkey... or a cat... or a wombat. It could also just be a weird light effect.

This blown-up image doesn't look legit.

I'm sorry but that's not even the same picture. Someone tried to photoshop a picture of Terry O'Quinn (as Locke) onto the original screencap. The face has a different angle in this one. I call shannanigans!

I doesn't look like Terry O'Quinn at all imho ! First i tought he looked like Whistler (Blade) or Sean Connery ^^ I hope they clear up the mystery before the end of the season, but i don't think so :(

I agree, I think that's been photoshopped, the face didn't protrude out as much before.

I immediately said Dennis Hopper...which I would LOVE if he was in this (but a big name might ruin the idea that this could be happening even though it probably isn't). But it does look like terry o quinn a little now that y'all say that. and the producers did say something to the extent that they did not cast a person to play jacob in this episode, so either that wasn't jacob, or they used an existing actor to play him (locke).

I'm not sure if this is legit or not - but he does look extremely like Locke!

I don't think there is anything on his back; it's just a blurry image!

not sure if this is correct.. but wasn't it said that Jacob hadn't been cast yet... if this is the case then we are just grasping at straws... it doesn't matter who it is...

Take it from me, that image is fake.

I'm a professional Photoshop artist, and I can tell you that the the image is made up of two halves, with the left part being from someplace else. It looks like an image of Locke has been merged into a screen cap from the episode.

I did everything I could think of with the original screencap, and it was impossible to get it to be THAT clear. That's fake for number of reasons - the lighting, how the clarity goes from great to rubbish, the variation in contrast and colour tones - and the fact that the levels are made up of two sets of values - i.e. two images.

it's Christian Shepherd

im not buying no moneys, no lizards, no pygmy lions, no homunculi, and no goddamn magic beans.

...and yeah, i reckon thats just a clever photoshop job...although, i have to be fair and say that in my experience, if you up the brightness and contrast enough then an image will (if youll excuse the phrase) "spazz up"...but...mainly i dont belive that the subtleties in terms of shadows/lighting shown on what IS terry o'quinn's face could possibly come from even a HD screencap of that shot....

now...i work with images a lot but im not a photographer, so anyone elses opinion would be gratefully recieved...but as it stands, i dont buy that as really being jacobs face...i think that if oine lumped the brightness contrast etc up and faffed with the image as much as possible, then there would still only be a white-grey haze with the barest suggestion of facial features where we can see tery o'quin

Whether or not it is Terry O'Quinn, there's one thing we CAN say for certain: the voice was definitely NOT Terry O'Quinn's.

What does that tell us?

If the picture is real, is Dennis Hopper.

Check it out:

http://www.curtisknapp.com/DOCUMENTS/portraits_06/01_p_dennis_hopper.html

Where abouts in this episode does this flash up?

Because i cant find it!

Anyone got the clip

Amazing! It's Bea Arthur from Golden Girls!!!!! Brilliant casting move.

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Where abouts in this episode does this flash up?

Because i cant find it!

Anyone got the clip
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Watch as Ben gets thrown across the room, as the camera pans back you can see the man sitting in the chair, that's the only time you see him - I had to watch a few times. I definitely didn't see him the first time I watched the episode, only knew he was there after reading the comments here.

And I agree, looks like Dennis Hopper.

lmaooo i thought the same thing! Whistler!

but its Alvar Hanso.

I overlayed this image with the original in photoshop, and I don't believe they line up properly. I think someone just photoshoped a face into the black shadow area of the face. There was no detail there to begin with, so there is no way to bring out any detail.

Ditto that. I use Photoshop professionally as well, played around with the image myself, and there's no way that the image above is real. There's just not any detail in those shadows to bring out.

There does appear to be something weird on his head, though, but I can't the image clear enough to have any clue as to what it is.

Even if it's Terry O'Quinn, remember that if Jacob IS the island/monster (or a manifestation/relation thereof) as this episode hinted, he can probably appear as a great many things (Jack's Dad, Yemi...) so it doesn't necessarily mean it IS Locke.

You had me for a minute but yes, it does appear to be a Photoshopped picture. Still, I think it's very possible that the actor playing the Jacob "apparition" or whatever you want to call it, was probably Terry O' Quinn. That doesn't mean he will play him in future episodes. It may just be a temporary thing until the role of Jacob is cast. Star Wars fans may recall that Clive Revill was the original Emperor (with monkey eyes composited in) in "The Empire Strikes Back", but Ian McDiarmid played him in every other SW film.

Fake!

The left side of his face is so underexposed that no information can be extracted from that. Seems like the guy pasted a pic of Locke on top of Jacob's.

I just finished searching images of everyone's guess as to who this profile belongs to. The two closest matches I found were John Terry (Christian) and Jamey Sheridan who fans of Stephen King and "The Stand" (where are you Merlboroman?) will remember as Randall Flagg in the movie...

It looks way too much like Locke, not to be Locke. Put your hand over the hair when looking at it :)

Has anyone compared the profile to a shot of Alvar Hanso? Didn't we have a profile shot of him at some point?

I think the person who created the photo was superimposing a profile shot of Terry O'Quinn onto the Jacob image to compare. It's not a fakejob.

I thought before I ever saw this that Jacob is Locke.

Jacob is probably Locke from the future, and has been orchestaring events from the advantage of hindsight.

Eh, nevermind I just found the Alvar shot and it's nowhere near the same angle.

And yet, I agree with Will. It could just be another manifestation.

I am willing to bet that there is a shot of John Locke from a pervious episode that looks exactly like this one.

I think they re-used a shot of Locke (or maybe one they cut out) to create thise scene. Othgerwise, they would have telegraphed it to Terry O'Quinn! Obviiusly, he'd know he was Jacob.

And from what I have read, they generally don't tell the cast anything about plot lines in advance of the one they are shooting or about to shoot.

I do agree that it may be the smoke creature manifesting as Locke. It has onely, so far as we know, manifested as a live person once, though: Walt.

I stikc to my theory that Jacob is Locke from the future, and that this is "The Tempest." Locke/Jacob being Prospero and Ben apparently being Caliban.

Seriously Doc,
This is about as questionable as a picture gets. I think you need to mention that in your description. There is no reason to put this picture up as the "clearest picture yet".

locke is going to die and "jacob" will reanimate his body and be a "ghost in the shell"

Jocke [Jacob/Locke] would then take over the remainder of Ben's crew [those who survive the encounter with the losties] once Jocke kills Ben

they together with the losties will do battle with the Dharma militia led by a turncoat Desmond

Does anyone else think theres a possiblity this could be Jacks father (christian)but older

He has the same nose as Owen Wilson
It's either Owen Wilson or Locke

However maybe Jacob takes on the form of whoever you think he might look like, he may not even have a face at all.

i believe this image comes from something someone did on lostpedia:

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Jacob_Locke_Comparison.jpg

i have no idea why someone would post this here and claim it is simply a cleaned up version. "cleaning up" doesn't let one see detail where this only black (especially the magically appearing left ear in this image)

that being said, the original image comparison from lostpedia is somewhat compelling, though far from convincing.

I think it looks like Jim Kramer from Mad Money with Jim Kramer on CNBC.

BOO YAH!

omg stupid locke getting shot >:-( that doesnt look much like him though

It's DESMOND!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l154/bigmothertucker/eyetoeye.jpg

You shouldn't publish this crap if you can't say where he got it from. I do not believe Locke is Jacob's twin or anything related to Locke. I am disappointed in you Doc!

Compare to this image

Flip the image. Magic wand out the shadow on Jacob's face, layer this picture beneath and viola.

Looks like Desmond's profile-.. face can't be seen.

It is Terence Stamp.

Don't say, "No it isn't." Because it IS!

If you say, "Whose Terence Stamp?" (Well... shame on you!) Terence Stamp is General Zod in Superman 2, also in Star Wars as Chancellor Valorum, also in Haunted Mansion (with Marsha Thomason who plays Naomi,) he was also in Alias (JJ Abrams' friend?)

It is most definitely without a doubt Terence Stamp. Spread the word and credit me!

I retract my previous post in favor of ihatehorses

It's not Locke, stop saying that.

As a follow up: if they DID use Locke's head as a basis for making "Jacob," if anything, Jacob is foreshadowing Locke's "help me" when he gets shot. As in, Locke looks at Jacob and sees himself saying "Help me."

So Jacob presents himself differently like the monster. But it's not Locke.

Terrance Stamp was also in Young Guns, Terry O'Quinn was also in Young Guns!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOAAAHHHHHHHH

Kneel before Jacob!

Wait a second, where did you get that picture from??

With closer observation it appears that there may be other faces on Jacob's profile (three total to be exact). This would give creedence to the theory that Jacob is the island and can manifest into a physical form...

If that's a monkey, the original (Locke?) had to be connected to the Black Rock somehow. The whole pirate with a monkey on his shoulder has been done to all hell though really...hasn't it?

PS. Please gods of LOST, do not let Jacob be John Locke with a monkey on his shoulder.

Posted by Harbringer |

I feel like I am now dumber for having read this post.

that is not locke the angle of the nose is completely wrong as lockes is more 45 degree whereas jacobs is more 30 degree also jacobs wearing a wig or a toupe

Alright, so maybe it isn't photoshopped :)

Check this out...

http://naturvetenskaparen.webblogg.se/lost.html

Great comparison of the pic above to Locke...taken from previous episode

I believe it is a screencap from "Man of Faith..." or "Orientation." I googled for Terry O'Quinn images.

thats not a photo of me, thou jackasses.

In fact, i look a great deal like Lenin.

I think that Jacob came on the black rock because his shirt looks like something a sailor from that day (the age of the ship) would wear. Also Ben says something to Locke about Jacob being uneasy about technology (meaning Jacob has been on the island for a long time not knowing new technology). You might ask how could someone live that long well the hostiles all still look the same age and if no one can be born cocieved and bor on the island how could there be original inhabitants.

Didn't Jacob's "HELP ME" sounds a lot like the voice of Jack's father Christian Sheppard?

yeah i thought it looked slightly like locke, but if that is supposed to be locke in some weird sought o futuristic way, why does he have hair!

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"did they really wotch stuff like that way back then?" sez hstryteach-cdr

He looks and SOUNDS like Kris Kristofferson...listen to the clip on youtube, and compare it to his voice...

I thought it looked a lot like Locke last night when I saw it.

Chill bumps from the anticipation: This speculation is not unintended...

i bet i'm right no one here will be right

I agree with skywalker, i think this is a total fake, someone has obviously taken lockes face and merged it with this screenshot, i don't believe it would be possible to hilight the image to show the face, theres no way they would be that stupid to alow that to be possible

This is completely off topic, sorry. I want to know why they hired a known, at-least B-grade film actress to play a seemingly miniscule role on the show.

I want to know why they hired Samantha Mathis to play Olivia - Teacher.

I agree, im a fellow photoshop geek and this image is not legit.

Furthermore, guys arent we being a little obsessive compulsive with this??? seriously man I was joking around earlier on and i said to a friend of mine that in a few hours there would be a picture of jacobs face up on the tailsection from the obsesee community and voilá here it is. Are we all sick or what?

If you look at the close up processed stills from "The man behind the curtain", of Jacob, in the rocking chair. The profile of this persons face Thanks to Peter, (clearest picture of Jacob yet) closely resembles Locke more than anyone else we have seen yet on the island. That's it, there is nothing else to go on. What if this and what if that, waist of time! In my opinion, it's Locke (With facial hair and a unshaven head) or it's someone new (Dennis Hopper)! And wile I'm at it, why can only Ben talk and know of Jacob and not Richard? And now Locke can hear him, and glimpses him. The only conclusion I have is, if Ben was born on the island then maybe Locke was too? Remember we haven't seen the early life's of many of the lost beach combers.

Danni UK

re: the whole idea that jacob appears as whomever he wants to ... who has seen images from their past?
jack and his dad
ben and his mom
kate and the horse (and sawyer was there - but i would argue that the horse APPEARED to her)
eko and yemi
sayid and his cat (?)
and maybe shannon and walt but i don't know if that counts.

maybe he appears to people who are on his list??

psif thats a monkey, its a spider monkey not a bloody orangutan...

its JOHN LOCKE, after his visit to the hair club for men of course.

The only character I'm convinced that Smokey has manifested as is Yemmi. I am less certain, but disposed at this time to believe, that it also manifest itself as Christian. Until proven otherwise, I will hold to my belief that the appearance of Walt to Shannon and Sayid was actually Walt.

Another Photoshop professional chiming in. This picture is absolutey fake. For one, the angle is wrong. The image of Locke that was pasted on top is taken from a slightly higher angle than Jacob was shot at. Two, heavy JPEG artifacts cover the "enhanced" version everywhere except the facial features. This is a red flag that suggests the image is a composite. The artifacts would be uniform throughout the image if it were real.

I'm really disappointed that a couple legitimate Lost sites are reporting on this fake image.

The reason that John couldn't see Jacob was because he didn't kill his dad like Ben and the hostiles apparently did.

The reason that John couldn't see Jacob was because he didn't kill his dad like Ben and the hostiles apparently did. Sawyer did. So if Sawyer met Jacob, he would see him.

We should have a vote on this, why not!

Question = Who is Jacob?

1. John Locke?

2. Dennis Hopper?

3. Another Lost Character?

4. One of the Others Characters?

5. Someone Completely New?

6. A figment of Ben's imagination?

7. A figment of Locke's imagination?

8. A Ghost/Spirit type thing?

9. The Island?

10. Old Smokey?

Come on Tail section, give it a go!

That's definitely doctored, here's a larger size with more details. I originally believed that it was Locke but it is not. That man (Jacob) has a beard. Also, the doctored image has a larger nose..

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6712/notlockent7.jpg

Hang on, Danni, don't stop there. Other possibilities I've seen mentioned include Kris Kristofferson, Sean Connery, Michael, Mikhail.

I think it's Carlton Cuse

Is That supposed to be Danny who Juliette shot on the beach does any1 think?

This Picture seems to be a fake.
I tried to color correct/adjust gamma/whatever this picture by myself, but there isn't any useable data in the dark area of the face.

And i also don't think that this could be locke.
the mouth and chin look different to me.

Well not entirely sure what that one is all about! Dany from the beach gets my vote to! But like many of the suggestion on here, we can't take it for granted that its one person, jacob is the island supoposedly!

Eh! That's Danni, not Danny! (Female/Male thing, yer!)
I'm a Female Lost fan from the UK, yes we exist thank you, sorry no pictures.
I was only trying to sort out this "Who is Jacob Question" As for Kris Kristofferson, Sean Connery, Michael, Mikhail, sorry babe, no way! I ain't buying that one.
But all the same, I'll leave it up-to the Tail Section guys & girls.
Its Late here, the sun has set, so I'm hitting the hay, night all, see you on the other side (Friday).

My votes in no particular order would be for Christian, nobody we've seen (specifically Jamey Sheridan), and the island (everybody and nobody)...

I think it might be Christian Shephard. He may be an other that traveled between the island and the outside world to get everyone who had to be on the plane on it. He told Sawyer to go through with the killing, he brought Ana Lucia there, he's the reason Jack went to Australia, and I'm not sure; but he may have visited the fortune teller's house at some point in Australia (the one that tells Claire to get on the plane, while frightened).

Plus, there's the fact that this episode revolved a lot around Jacob, and Ben had a white rabbit with him, the name of the episode where Jack found the empty casket.

By the way,where does Kelvin fit in on the time line? Did he arrive before or after the Dharma purge?

the pic looks very altered.... very fake, like the face was added in.

That image is a total fake and this article should either be edited to reflect the high probabability of that or deleted all together.

The "HELP ME" sounded a lot like Brother Justin of Carnivale, or as LOST fans know him better, Kelvin and the glorious actor that is Clancy Brown. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be Clancy Brown. The hatred of technology thing doesn't fit though. Damn it.

We should have a vote on this, why not!

Question = Who is Jacob?

1. John Locke?

2. Dennis Hopper?

3. Another Lost Character?

4. One of the Others Characters?

5. Someone Completely New?

6. A figment of Ben's imagination?

7. A figment of Locke's imagination?

8. A Ghost/Spirit type thing?

9. The Island?

10. Old Smokey?

11. Kris Kristofferson?

12. Sean Connery?

13. Michael?

14. Mikhail?

15. Danny?

OK!

Right, I'm off to my bed now, its 12:35am on Friday here, so please leave me alone!
For at least 8 hours, ok you guys!

Is it still possible that Jacob is an older Jack?

I think it's the actor Stuart Wilson

http://imdb.com/name/nm0934179/

Booooo. that pic is bollocks. who made that? your reputations as a good lost forum are LOST on this one jajajaja.

The image is not a fake people. If you're all such photoshop experts, why don't you import the image and line it up! It lines up perfectly. You can't tell what angle the face is at in the original because it is behind the shadows.

Sorry, this is going to be long.
A. I doubt very seriously we're going to learn who Jacob is anytime soon. As such, I doubt that the Lost crew would make that split second of an image give his identity away. I think they're high fiving each other right now on how perfectly the ambiguity of the image worked.

B. Part of me thinks Doc Jensen and others' theory on Jacob being Locke is the most reasonable theory. It could work.

C. However, for some reason, I'm really thinking Christian Shephard. If Christian isn't Jacob, then he still plays a more important role than say Ben's mother's appearance on the island. (not that Christian has shown up on the island YET... but, the fact that 2 of his children have is pretty huge... particularly looking at the biblical symbolism.)

D. Speaking of biblical symbolism: In the bible Jacob is Benjamin's father:
Benjamin’s saga and posterity all relate to his tribe. The tribe of Benjamin existed in a tremendously small area. Furthermore, the tribe itself was small in quantity. In fact, they were almost eliminated wholly after a battle in retaliation for a “disgraceful incident.” A great division among the nation existed and continued to increase. The only way for his tribe to continue was to join forces with another tribe in an effort to triumph over their enemies. Eventually they conquered the enemies, who quickly fled the land.
At some point during the tribal battles and allegiances, Benjamin and his father Jacob had a falling out . In fact, when Jacob was dying, he uttered a rather disturbing message about his son. (Jacob lived for a very, very long time as he was quite healthy, vital, and strong.)
And,
Jacob has a twin brother named Esau... which is far too close to Rousseau to be a mere coincidence.

I believe we're all underestimating the role of Danielle and Christian Shephard.

That being said, I wouldn't begin to cause any further damage to my brain by eliciting exactly how they fit into to the mindfuck of Lost.

Thanks for the picture, Doc.

it looks like Tom to me

To anyone thinking this is real, take a look at this. You can clearly see that the plane of the "enhanced" Jacob's face does not align with the original. Like I said before, the fake version uses a photo of Locke shot from a slightly higher angle. Also, notice the patch of skin that leads from his cheek to ear is now suddenly fully visible? This would be impossible using Photoshop. Period. I am really disappointed that my favorite Lost site has posted such a misleading article.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6091/fake2ub5.jpg

i do not understand why the vast majority of you cannot believe that it's NOT someone we already know. seriously -- why would locke need to help himself? the voice is not terry o'quinn's, and it is definitely not bens, so what could possibly lead you to believe that it's John Locke other than maybe a slight facial similarity?

On another note, Ben definitely cannot hear or see Jacob or else he wouldn't bother asking John what Jacob said, or shooting him because of it for that matter.

To anyone thinking this is real, take a look at this. You can clearly see that the plane of the "enhanced" Jacob's face does not align with the original. Like I said before, the fake version uses a photo of Locke shot from a slightly higher angle. Also, notice the patch of skin that leads from his cheek to ear is now suddenly fully visible? This would be impossible using Photoshop. Period. I am really disappointed that my favorite Lost site has posted such a misleading article.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6091/fake2ub5.jpg

word to that

THESE PICS ARE FROM THE SHOW THEY ARE NOT CROPDED. WATCH CABIN SCENE IN SLOW MO YOU CAN SEE A CLIMPSE OF JACOB

You are right Belzar, thanks for posting that picture.

DOES ANYONE REALLY WATCH THIS SHOW. YOU CAN SEE THIS SCENE IN THE CABIN THIS IS THE PIC FROM SHOW NOT CROPPED AT ALL

RIGHT ON THIS IS THE ACTOR WHO PLAYED RANDALL FLAGG IN THE STAND NO DOUBT THE FUNNY FOREHEAD NOSE SLOPE IN UNMISTAKEABLE

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

the pics that is not tampered with looks more like LOCKE than the altered one. I hope you relize that these pics are straight from last nights show, you have to watch in slow mo or pause on the right frame

Does anyone know where the hell they got a picture of jacob from??????

Was it in the episode????

ummm...ya sorry... i didnt see that comment above until after I posted..again.. sorry "akward"

It appeared last night after locke pulled out his flash light and the room lit up ben was thrown against the wall and the in a split second it shows the image above. Helps if you have tevo and slo mo

Does anyone else see the close-up eyeball shot???? Its right after that for a few frames. Neither Locke, nor Ben have dark colored eyes. Its pretty obvious its not them.
Watch it again!!

I dont know what you guys are talking about. Im an expert with photoshop and transposed the new face with the shadowed face of Jacob.

Heres the result:

The back part of the head matches up, but the front face doesnt.

If I match up the front part of the new face, with the front part of the shadowed face, it matches up perfectly. Its the same face, although I cant get seem to get quality features out of a black face like someone did.

What it appears to me is that the faces are the same, but could have been taken form two different frame shots. Same face, different frames from the same scene.

I'm not backing the man behind the curtain of this photoshop proof of Jacob's identity, but I'm not backing you self proclaimed photoshop experts either. I honestly thought that it was locke before even seeing the altered image. And just think, your all trying to pin the identity of jacob based on a couple of facts but ecspecially the fact that ben tells john that jacob hates technology just like locke himself. Maybe we all missed the most obvious clue. Who else could feel the same way about technology as Lock?...locke himself. Just a thought.

that is dennis hoppers nose.. his name was on a call sheet on ebay....

The "Leader" of the original "Natives" has not aged at all (forgot his name). From when he met young Ben in the jungle to when they met again after gasing the compound, strange.....

The person is Alvar Hanso, go to thehansofoundation.org and see for yourself

If Locke got shot where his kidney used to be would he be more likely to survive than if his kidney was there?
The photo seems too unreliable. If it is Locke, there will have to be a hell of an explaination. This episode made me madder than Nikki and Paulo did. When someone dies on the show there is always a spoiler about it ahead of time, I never read anything about Locke dying so i think he will still survive. If Locke is gone, WHO is the new hero? I don't want to like Jack anymore, if he was staying quiet "to decide what to do next", why was he such a douche about it? I still don't believe he "kept his head down and did what he was told"

it's willie nelson...he must be looking at the island for farm-aide

KJ, I don't know it that was your intention, but it could well be that Jacob is Alvar Hanso. The picture from thehansofoundantion.org could be of the same person as in the Jacob scene. Does anyone have more pictures of Alvar from the Lost Experience times? Something we can compare to Jacob's screencap? I don't think it's Locke either. I spent a lot of time in photoshop and, as the ps experts already said above, it doesn't seem that there is any way to enchance this picture enough.

We don't know that Richard was the leader of the Natives. He maybe just "recruited Ben" Maybe the Hostiles came from the Black Rock origionally, maybe they were the slaves. By the way does anyone know what the whispers said?

I think that Desmond is a mole. Well, some would say otherwise because he is supposedly saving Charlie's life right now, but... even Ben helped John when he could have escaped instead.
Desmond knows a lot more than he is telling the Losties. I think he is somehow connected to Jacob even though I don't believe that he "is" Jacob.

If Jacob is Alvar Hanso it would make more sense. There was an episode where Tom quoted Hanso. he said, "You know, somebody a whole lot smarter than anybody here once said: Since the dawn of our species man's been blessed with curiosity." Since everybody refers to Jacob as great and smart, maybe he is Hanso, although that raises more questions too.

Yes, I'd like to know about the whispers myself--especially in the scene where young Ben was in the jungle before he met Richard.

point of fact, kris kristofferson lives on maui, so he would totally be perfect to be jacob, as to not draw attention to dennis hopper wandering around oahu, which would spur too much attention/speculation.

it's kris . . . .

and next thing, they'll find willie nelson on the other side of the island growing some ganja...

giddy up...

Been looking at the "Locke is Jacob" arguement. Noticed nobody mentioned an obvious flaw in that theory. In the sequence with Ben and Locke in the creepy cabin, as the scenes were flashing back and forth, they showed the profile of a figure (now widely posted here), but they also showed something right after this... a brown eye.

What color eyes does Michael Emmerson have in the show? Terry O'Quinn? Blue.

There was a third person in the room... unless they decided to pull the old "contact lense on the Terry O'Quinn of the future" bit. That one is so old.

Here are my thoughts....

First, this big reveal is a composite. I make a very good living, living in Photoshop, After Effects and other video imaging effects software (I have even done forensics work for some court cases). I am NOT convinced.

(I preface I did not initially see the "jacob frame" in question. I do not have HD in my house nor TIVO. All of this is at work and in hurry to get to baseball game for my son earlier in the day, I failed to set it. And my wife & I have completely different TV tastes in this 10pm EST hour of television. She pushed the remote control button in this scene just to piss me off)

That being said - My gut initial gut reaction was Oh crap they have gone off the sci-fi deep end and brought on the invisable horror movie villain. But now having seen this I offer a confirmation to my Vacuum/tornado theory:

IF, and I do a BIG IF, this is Locke in the chair, it would make sense Locke can not see nor hear himself. Regardless of what state of being they are in (dead/alive/purgatory/limbo) like nearly all time travel theories, living beings can not exist at the same time, same place.

I have gone into great detail on a seperate thread about 2 weeks ago on this theory of mine but we are witnessing (in slo-mo) the process of multiple time lines(planes if you will) being sucked into a sort of vacuum of time/space.

Locke's current timeline is coming to end and he is PLEADING "Help me".

The Reducers (Producers) have informed us thru a podcast that the AMAZING thing that changes Lockes course on this show is not the two words but the fact that he actually HEARS them!!!!!!

On the devils addvocate side - it certiqnly LOOKs like it might be Hanso....and by reading the new website, certainly aludes to it as well.

I THINK JACOB IS ETHAN!

I happened across an image of Ethan today and all of a sudden it occurred to me that Ethan might very well be Jacob. I put together a diagram dissecting and explaining my theory, which you can see here:
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/parttimegenius/?action=view¤t=jacob.jpg

Ethan was definitely creepy enough, and while I was researching my theory, I came across several posts from the fall that spoke of a possible link between the two.

Good slow-mo of the interesting parts of the sequence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XxvON0jUos

Whose eye is that? Is it really Jacob's eye? Because it doesn't look like Ben or Locke's...

Also, I recorded the "Help Me" and normalized it, and have the audio clip stored on my computer. I'll mess with applying tempo, pitch and other changes later (to see if it's a slowed-down/altered version of someone else saying "Help Me"), since it's 3am where I am right now, LoL. DocArzt, if you want that audio clip (even though you probably already have it), let me know - anything I can do to help! :-)

did any one else notice that Richard did not age a day?
WTF?

Hi, I'm Peter, and I'm the one who sent the image. And to make it clear, I did not photoshopped the image, i've just sent it to the site owner, and it's not my job to qustion the origin of the image. So don't blame me, I'm not the one who made this. Thanks.

Why the hell does everyone keep mentioning Joop, that orangutan from the Lost Experience? What have I missed exactly that led people to think this might be a monkey...? Or that there is a monkey on his back...what? Where does this crap come from?

Jacob is wearing a hood, it isn't hair or a monkey. It is an effect of lighting. Could it be that Desmond is on the island to save Jacob, since the brotherhood felt it was very important for Desmond to be on the island. Could this actually be brother jacob campbell?

All good points here, but I don't think it's Locke. The importance of Locke hearing him probably makes him even more special to the others, which is why Ben shoots him. Now this could turn out to be sort of grooming for Locke to take over for Ben (Ben might be making sure he's the one), but more likely Ben feels his power being usurped. I have been considering Hanso. What if Alvar was actually born on the island. What if Magnus is his father or grandfather, and Alvar was a successful birth after conception on the island? Perhaps this made him very special. Maybe Ben's obsession with the fertility project is to find Jacob's replacement. Who knows, but I like your vacuum/tornado theory. It's very similar to my own...

This is also an interesting theory on Jacob. It would mean that Brother Campbell may have been some sort of successor when we first met him. It does seem that the original inhabitants are some sort of masters of fate. Maybe being god is a job just like (well maybe not just like) ours...

Another point that could hint to Jacob being Alvar Hanso. In the Bible, Jacob was married to Rachel. Rachel was the mother of Benjamin and Joseph (who was thrown a pit by Benjamin and his other brothers...). In the Lost Experience, we learn that Rachel Blake was Alvar's daughter. Names in Lost are always chosen for a reason...

Sorry, that amount of detail cannot be pulled out of that black shadow mass...I tried with Photoshop. It's fake.

Hope this works

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/scrapbook/22/60868_1_8.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Terry%2C%20John%20(I)&seq=6

This has to be Jacob/Jacks Dad

Guys, it's not Terry O'Quinn. His nose isn't the same shape, nor does it have that rounded shape at the tip.

These are some great theories. I wonder if it could also be someone who was close to Alvar Hanso... in a strictly physical sense.

I agree with Skywalker that the image is a fake. I played around with the original yesterday and there was NO detail in the face. And where are the compression artifacts that exist in every other dark area of the pic? And there's the angle -- we're seeing the face from a downward angle, but the original shot is pretty much level. Sorry, but it's fake.

I'm sticking with the brother campbell reasoning. The bottles on the shelf could also be wine from Moriah vineyards, check out some of the interesting facts about moriah vineyards here... http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Moriah

Or someone that has been on the island before any type of modern technology existed. Possibly someone from the Black Rock. Could that be a bird on his shoulder?

I think it is Alvar Hanso, go to his page, it is a dead ringer picture for the pics of Jacob.

http://thehansofoundation.org/

it is Alvar Hanso

http://thehansofoundation.org/

Not sure who it is but if you use windows movie maker an go frame by frame you can see he has a very full head of hair and there is nothing sitting on his shoulder. He has very long wavey hair.

First, the author of the article should explain that the photo above is not an "enhanced" version of a still shot from the show, but is in fact an attempt by someone to superimpose Locke's visage onto that of Jacob's for comparison purposes.

That should quiet all the whining about "faeks," and "hoaxes."

Second, the image of Jacob we have is that of Terry O'Quinn.

Looking cloely at photographinc comparison, it is pretty obvious.

One possibility raised above is that "Jacob" is in fact the Smoke Mponster, and takes the forms of humean beings under certain circumstances. So, it is not necessarily dispositive that Jacob appeared to look like John Locke.

That being said, a futuristic Locke, or a Locke from a different timestream, would be able to orchestare all of the events that brought the Losties to the Island, and would explain many of the coincidences.

Perhgaps Ben found a way to trap the futuristic Locke, and he was crying for help from his past self?

That slow mo sinks it for me. The eye-closeup is Ben's. And its indicating shock when he looks from Jacob toward Locke.

He realizes they look alike!

OK folks, Jacob is really Alvar Hanso who is the owner of the Hanso Corp http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
This is just my opinion but, look at the two pictures.
Also, read the missions statement. He speaks of "dark forces".
This could explain the "help me" that we heard....