Lost Season 5 Finale Discussion
Wow, that was certainly an explosive finale. It sure ended with a big bang. I think you get where I’m going with this. Anyway, did you love the ending or were you a little disappointed? Let us know. And if you missed anything or want to remind yourself what happened, check out our in-detail recap of the finale.
Speechless…utterly speechless….except of course to say “Ding dong the witch is dead….” Oh happy day.
Comment by Shane — May 13, 2009 @ 7:08 pm
Lost is going to have the greatest final season in the history of television.
With every finale, the writers masterfully expand the universe of what Lost ‘is about’. This finale recontextualizes everything we think we know about the nature of this show.
Masterfully done. Thank you.
Comment by Finchmeister — May 13, 2009 @ 7:09 pm
Can anyone translate what Richard said to English?
Comment by Mike — May 13, 2009 @ 7:54 pm
The whole John Locke thing bugged me the most then the whole “what happened after the blast.”
Comment by Dale — May 13, 2009 @ 8:12 pm
The english answer to the question “What lies in the valley of the shadow?” is “He who will save us.” Rough translation but that’s basically it. Best finale ever. Holy crap.
Comment by DJ Jazzy Death — May 13, 2009 @ 8:15 pm
I hope the answer to all LOST’s question isn’t some quasi-religious BS like Battlestar Galactica ended on.
Comment by avoidz — May 14, 2009 @ 5:12 am
Crap… I meant “What lies in the Shadow of the Statue?” Other translations to the answer are “He who will give us salvation” and “He who will save me”. BIBLICAL SHIT MAN!
Comment by DJ Jazzy Death — May 14, 2009 @ 5:40 am
Great episode - we finally see where it all began. Was that the Black Rock in the beginning? I liked the whole deal with Locke, it gives “dead is dead” a lot more meaning. My only issue with this episode was Juliet’s role…she kept changing her mind, let’s leave the island, let’s save these people, let’s blow up the island…it was annoying. But, I liked Miles’ point - what if they were just creating “the incident” that they were trying to prevent…I think that’s key. I don’t think they’ll land in LAX next year, I think that they actually all killed themselves like Alpert said…but we’ll see.
Comment by Andy — May 14, 2009 @ 6:09 am
I also think Miles may be right. After all, if this wasn’t the incident that already happened, how else did Dr. Chang ultimately lose his hand/arm?
Comment by Ryan B — May 14, 2009 @ 6:52 am
@Ryan B:
The same way Charlie died in a different way, and the same way Desmond’s prediction of his dealth leading to Claire and baby being rescued.
Even though everyone seems to think “Whatever happened, happened” is infallable truth, they are wrong. The main events may have to stay the same, but the WAY THEY HAPPEN can be altered. IF “Whatever happened, happened” was truth, next season will just be season one reaired scene for scene. Obviously something is going to go haywire and the events will be changed, otherwise we just saw the end of the series.
Comment by Scott — May 14, 2009 @ 7:07 am
Awesome finale! I was biting my nails the whole time.
I believe it will restart itself and flight 815 will have just crashed. AGAIN. Only, everything will be different.
Comment by Christen — May 14, 2009 @ 9:10 am
they didn’t cause “the insident”, Stuart did, the bomb didn’t start suckin’ things, was the drill, so what causes the bomb ???, 2010_
Comment by Desmond Brother — May 14, 2009 @ 11:30 am
So Locke takes Richard and Ben on an “errand” and he goes to Yemi’s plane and he tells Richard “a man is going to come out of the woods with a bullet wound. You have to go help him and you need to tell him that he has to die in order to bring the others back”…. the Locke that tells Richard to do to this is really the Mysterious Man (from the very beg. of the episode) possessing Locke’s body.. and he tells Richard to tell the REAL Locke that he has to die. So that’s how they get Real Locke to die so Mysterious Man can take over his body.
Comment by MT — May 14, 2009 @ 12:37 pm
And oh yea maybe next season they will still be on the island but back in the future, like where they started.. after the crash. I think Miles’ theory is correct, that Jack (really Juliet) detonating the bomb IS the catastrophic event that causes everything. Radzinsky (sp) was there when the bomb goes off but he doesn’t die until he kills himself years later after being stuck in the Hatch with Innman pressing that button every 108 mins. And Jacob brought all of them to the island (the first AND the second time) so that it could happen. I don’t think they changed anything.
Comment by MT — May 14, 2009 @ 12:40 pm
This web-site has become such a POS, bad enough the content sucks, even worse that my posts don’t seem to take and I have to go back and re-write them. The good ole’ days where there was content and you could actually click submit comment and it would take without problem.
I don’t buy the fact the bomb went off, at least not in the same flash of light fashion that the Losties previously time traveled in. That white light was them getting warped to the present where Jacob was just killed, it didn’t put them back on 815 before the crash. If it did, and the crash occurred again, but they maintained their cognizance of the past that would be cool. It won’t though, how can you resolve this series, especially the Jacob getting killed with Illyiana just arriving if everyone is back on 815? You can’t. That has to be a red herring unless Jacobs plan was to be resurrected by having the bomb go off, thus Locke never died, the devil never inhabited his body and killed him. Still don’t buy that.
What if the devil(the guy occupying Locke’s form) was the form of everyone else(the islands ghosts or even the smoke monster who was able to take the judged souls) to manipulate the path to kill Jacob. He could have been the image of Ben’s mom to get Ben to come over to the Others. The image of Christian to get Locke off the island and to get Jack back. The image of Alex telling Ben to follow Locke. The image of Charlie to get Hurley back. (Though this would be discredited since Jacob told Hurley he was blessed to be able to speak with the dead)
Fairly obvious with what they set up that the Losties will have to come together to resurrect Locke or Jacob to save the world in his absence and restore the hope of humanity. Jack is being primed as leader and with Locke dead he will be the new leader when he returns and he has always been fair, just, and done what is necessary.
I still don’t think Jack and Kate’s split was powerful enough to warrant the emotional outburst of Jack loving Kate still and wanting to ease the pain by never meeting her. That is left field stuff.
Will the Devil Locke now kill Ben before they leave the temple? Devil Locke told Richard they would have to take care of the Ajirra survivors, but that was before they showed Richard the body. Interesting tapestry JAcob sewed. Almost instructions for resurrection IMHO. It shows a bunch of people under one giant wing(airplane or heaven?). I think if Jacob gets all the Losties assembled they can either resurrect him out of the goodness of humanity…or something like that.
I’m excited for this show to end in season 6, but it really has diverged and gotten very outlandish. I can’t help to think how much better it would have been had they kept it more believable.
Why don’t the 1970s Losties just go find 1970s Jacob?
How exactly was Ben changed by the temple when Sayid shot him? That has to play a role still.
Claire and Aaron and Christian still need to play a role. Those are the big 3 unresolved people, all Shephards! Jack and his bloodline!
Jacob was saving them so Devil wouldn’t wipe them out!
Okay, I’m done with the reaching speculation. Thanks for listening.
Comment by BlutoSchmooto — May 14, 2009 @ 3:02 pm
i actually agree with you on most of your points bluto. however, i really want people to stop using god and devil words. if his name is jacob. then let’s call the bad one “esau”. sure, one is about life and one about death. and i especially believe that most of dead appearing to people (other than hurley) has been “esau”. yemi, christian shepherd, etc…
i also agree that it has become sort of outlandish… they have 16 episodes to tie it all together. walt and aaron were supposed to be important. so if they aren’t brought back, they’ve ruined a lot of the things they set up from the very beginning. although we now see it has been an elaborate game/ruse set up by this “esau” character. but jacob didn’t stop ben from doing what he did. it’s very interesting to have “all-knowing” characters who give people a choice. although that could be part of the whole old argument that if god is all omniscient and such, then free will cannot in fact exist. because if god knows all of the choices that you’re going to make from your birth on, even with you making “your own” choices… if you end up killing someone due to your life trajectory, god is condemning you to hell from the start. i believe that a god that would bring people into existence knowing the bad that they would do and still punishing them is why i find the omniscient god thing a little dated. i’ll probably be yelled at for explaining my distaste for christianity for this… or get some elaborate philosophical musings to prove how god and free will can exist at the same time… i don’t care. i just care about lost. and them being able to end the show in a way that is satisfying. where’s the hurleybird? what is the hurleybird? what about the children? if they didn’t crash, how could they cause the incident-paradox? and all the other questions that i hope others are asking themselves about lost answering. and it already has gotten my blood boiling when listening to tptb talk about how not everything will be resolved… and yet they knew from the beginning where they were going..? bull!
Comment by hurleybird — May 14, 2009 @ 6:35 pm
Questions:
1) What about Cindy the flight attendant and the kids?
2) Have we seen Hurley or anyone talk to Jin about his daughter?
3) What am I going to do when this whole thing is over?
Comment by frank — May 14, 2009 @ 7:00 pm
I am curious if anyone else was confused about Jacob like I was because when he is first introduced and Locke see’s and hears him (when Ben can not though he lies and says he can) and we saw a quick flash of Jacob he is an older man who looks balding with a beard - where did this young guy who never ages come from? Maybe I missed something…
Comment by Lost in Florida — May 20, 2009 @ 6:43 pm
@Lost in Florida:
That wasn’t Jacob in that cabin, it was the man in black that wanted Jacob dead. The cabin was surrounded in ash to keep him from exiting, thus would be a reason to say “Help me” to John Locke.
Comment by Scott — May 22, 2009 @ 4:18 am
Great great great !!
Did anyone notice:
when “young kate” steels the box from the store, as jacob speaks to the owner, when they put the camera on the owner you can see bottles of absolut vodka in the back of the shelves…
is that a mistake? anachronism ???
Comment by Diego — May 23, 2009 @ 12:09 pm