Your Voice: Stephen King, Rousseau’s Story, and 3.2 Million
We’ve received a few shorter "Your Voice" entries recently, so I thought I’d combine them together to create one fantastic entry. Think of this as the Voltron of "Your Voice" posts.
Submitted by Alexander Horre
I check out your site a lot, and thought I’d email you this tidbit I discovered during the recent episode of Lost.
- Remember the 3.2 million dollars that Ben has to cough up for Miles?
- Add this to the suggested tip that Sun’s father’s company (now partly hers) worked with Widmore. (Not sure where I read that…)
- This could play into the statement that two people are responsible for "Jin’s death."
- Now, think about the moment when Sun visits her father and those businessmen are saying, "We’re not sure how it happened. He used different banks."
There is no reason to tell the audience this unless it’s significant. Banks = money = 3.2 million dollars.
Connection? I think so!
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Submitted by Nick Lapolla
It’s interesting what you find when your bored , and what you can come up with. I was looking through Stephen King’s books recently, and I looked at the book The Talisman. Guess what the main character’s name is? It’s Jack Sawyer. How strange is that? Or is it really?
If most people don’t know, The Talisman is about a boy who jumps through different parallel dimensions to save his mother’s life. Could the folks behind Lost be setting up a multi-dimensional story? What if they’re giving us a Stephen King style story where the things that happen here in our world are different in another world?
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Submitted by Ian Robinson
So, as I’m sitting here watching Season 1 of Lost, I began to think about Rousseau, her story, and how that relates to the island. She says that her crew was shipwrecked and got sick.
I think that the last time they moved the island, it passed through the course of the Black Rock (and that Rousseau was on it). When this happened, it ’shipwrecked’ the Black Rock on the island, and made the members on board sick (like Desmond). Rousseau probably had an easier constant to think of than the others and was not sick as long, or was not sick at all. So far we have no proof that any females can get sick when passing through the barrier.
The reason I don’t believe Rousseau about her story, and think she was on the Black Rock, is because if she were truly French (as per her transmission), how would she learn English had she not seen ANYONE else on the island? I don’t think she could teach it to herself. Furthermore, had she known English when she was shipwrecked, why transmit her message in French? More people would understand English.
Also, she claims to have never seen anyone else on the island, but how did the Others take Alex? How could Ben and Rousseau be Alex’s ‘parents’ if she’s never seen them? She’s clearly lying about that.
Opinions?
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Women CAN get sick. Remember the woman on the freighter, who strapped herself down with chains and jumped overboard?
Comment by Gary — May 22, 2008 @ 10:04 am
@ Alexander Horne
Sorry, but wrong. The scared businessmen talking to Sun’s father was a reference to the fact that the company was just bought out (Sun got a controlling interest). I doubt that there’s a connection between Miles and Sun/Jin/Sun’s father just because they’re all Asian.
Comment by Finchmeister — May 22, 2008 @ 10:10 am
As for Rousseau, it is recent that english is the dominant language in the world. Many country I have been, most of the baby boomers were tought french as a secondary language, of course now the new generation are learning english (even do some protest U.S imperialistic politic by learning french or spanish). It’s even truer if we go back to 19h century of napoleon imperialistic time (time of the Black Rock). In the colonialism time too, most of south asia was France colony (like Indochine, which is the current vietnam/cambodge).
I agree it doesn’t explain how she learn english, my guess is she probably knew it already.
Comment by Jonathan — May 22, 2008 @ 10:39 am
when I heard the guy saying that they went through 5 different banks, i figured that it had to do with Miles or something, if we are taking the millions literally.
but i heard somewhere that the 3.2 Million is code for 3.25 because there are 5 zeros in that number and that is the baring you have to take to get to and from the island.
Comment by Dan — May 22, 2008 @ 11:24 am
Gary, we have no idea what exactly happened to her. What I’m suggesting is that going through to the island on the wrong bearing so far has shown no affect on women.
Another thought, what if the submarine was just for show? We’ve never seen it actually move, maybe it’s so the people don’t realise they wree just teleported..
Comment by Ian Robinson — May 22, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
Has it occurred to anyone else that Hurley might have given a substantial amount of money to Sun? $3.2 million doesn’t sound like a much money to buy a controlling interest in a company like Paik Heavy Industries. Hurley’s $114 million (or what’s left of it) would be much more likely. He said he doesn’t want it. He’s a good person, so I could see him giving it to Sun in order to set right what he perceives to be wrong. More than likely, this takeover has greater implications than just sticking it to her father out of revenge. This probably gets her access to info about Hanso and Widmore as well.
Comment by Leetdewd — May 22, 2008 @ 2:15 pm
I doubt Hurley gave money to Sun. Sun tells her father she received a substantial amount of money from Oceanic for the crash. It had nothing to do with Miles in any form. The 3.2 million was a deal between Ben & Miles. Besides, in that episode with Sun buying a portion of her father’s money, Hurley has a surprise party thrown for him and when his dad takes him to the garage to see his present, Hurley says he doesn’t want anything from the lottery money. His dad then says that he fixed up the car before Hurley gave them the money. Notice he’s driving a beat up car, when in the flashbacks he had a new Hummer - he gave his money to his parents when he returned home from the island.
Comment by jess — May 22, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
I’m not sure that Sun would have any knowledge of the Paik/Widmore connection so soon after being rescued. As a matter of fact, there has been no connection drawn on the show itself, just the Lost game (I think?) I think Sun’s true motivation is sticking it to one of the people she blames for Jin’s death, her father.
I like the idea of Hurley giving the money to Sun, but I don’t agree that Hurley “gave” his winnings to his parents. How do we know they just didn’t inherit the money? He was presumed dead afterall.
Comment by Alaine — May 23, 2008 @ 6:34 am
The Black Rock was a slave ship from the 1800’s. Highly unlikely Rousseau was on it and then have modern equipment.
Comment by ray — May 23, 2008 @ 7:37 am
Isn’t it possible that whoever makes the oceanic six lie about their story, knew that Mr Piak (sun’s dad) was connected to Widmore? And, maybe the Oceanic six put all of their money together (they all got a fabulous settlement from oceanic) Not including Aaron, so that would make 5 (like from 5 different banks). I think sun knows her father is connected to widmore, and is finding a way to get to him.
Comment by Tivnuts — May 23, 2008 @ 8:06 am
i like the theory about the island physically moving into the path of the black rock. I mean really… it makes sense. How else does a ship get in the middle of an island? As much as you can “fantasize” about how those things could happen in the science fiction realm… it’s still pretty improbable any way you shake it.
The “other person” Sun blames for Jin’s death is Jack.
I think the money that Miles is requesting from Ben is just that. Money. No real need for it anywhere… mostly added for comic effect when Ben says: “why not 3.5, 3.8?” Has the $$ been brought up again? (despite miles and ben being separated, I still think LOST would bring it up more often if it was bearing that much significance on the whole thing)
As for the Jack/Sawyer connection to Stephen King… I mean, I get where you’re going with this… but there’s no way LOST would do that. That’s a stupid idea and I will be severely disappointed if thats how the show ends.
Comment by dwill3000 — May 23, 2008 @ 10:06 am
I’m going a little off topic here, but there’s something I’ve been wondering. If Horace Goodspeed built the cabin, how did turn into Jacob’s cabin? There’s got to be a story behind that.
Comment by Celeste — May 23, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
HEY DONT FORGET 16YRS OF TRANSMISSION ISNT 16YRS IN THE REAL WORLD TIMES THAT BY 3.25 OR 4 WHATEVER -THATS A BLOODY LONG TIME ISNT IT?
DID ANYONE THINK OF THAT?
SO SHE WAS AN EARLY EXPLORER OR RESEARCHER, UNUSUAL FOR A WOMAN IN THOSE DAYS. COULD BE WAR LINKED & ALSO SHE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT AMMUNITION WHICH IS WHAT WOMEN WORKED WITH DURING THE WAR. MAYBE IM WRONG BUT FOLLOW THE FLOW & THATS WHAT i COME UP WITH. THEREFORE JULIET HAS BEEN THERE LONGER THAN 3 YEARS UNLESS SHE IS AWARE OF THE TIME DIFFERENCE, LOOK AT THEIR CLOTHES & OTHER DETAILS, STYLE & MANNER.
-WAS WIDMORE INVOLVED IN THE 2ND WORLD WAR, IT DOES SEEM KIND OF MILITARY -A GREAT MAN, KERNAL, ALMOST AS THOUGH HE KNEW HIM PERSONALLY… WERE THEY SPYING DURING THE WAR & TELEPORTING? IS THAT THE BALLANCE TO UNDO ALL THAT STUFF? DOES WIDMORE AGE,NOT PARTICULARLY… DESMOND WAS IN THE ARMY. DOCTORS, ARMY, NURSES, SURGEONS, NUT HOUSES, - PS… I LOVED THAT BIT I READ ABOUT BEN TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS & PREVENT HIS MOTHER FROM DYING, THAT WAS A WOWZER~! ONE LAST THING, IF BEN WAS BORN IN THE 60′S WHY DOES HE LOOK SO OLD ? ON THE ISLAND HE SHOULD LOOK YOUNGER, HE HAS TRAVELLED BACK N FORTH-ITS NOT CURRENT BEN, ITS FUTURE BEN MWAHAHAHA
SAYID FORGETS WOT HE’S DOING IN THE HELICOPTER ON ONE SCENE DID ANYONE FORGET THAT, HE DOESNT KNOW WHERE HE IS AND
AS MENTIONED ABOVE OFCORSE FRENCH PEOPLE SCIENTISTS ETC WOULD SPEAK BASIC ENGLISH -SHE IS AN EDUCATED WOMAN. I GUESS YOU SPEAK YOUR NATIVE TOUNGE WHEN YOU PANIC! BUT THERE IS DEFINATELY DOUBT ABOUT THE SICKNESS/QUARRUNTEEN STILL, IF THEY USED GAS, MAYBE IN THE PAST THEY USED GERM WARFARE ON THE ENEMIES TO CONTROL THE PERAMETERS
REMEMBER HOW SCARED SHE WAS ABOUT THE ILLNESS & THE OTHERS… WHY SO SCARED? LACK OF KNOWLEDGE DUE TO HER GENERATION & THEIR EXPERIMENTS.. MUST HAVE BEEN SHOCKING!IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE LANDING/SHIPWRECK THAT MADE THEM SICK, HER CONSTANT WAS HER NEW BORN DAUGHTER? WASNT THERE A RASH & COUGHING INVOLVED? DIDNT SOMEONE HAVE A NASTY INFECTION IN THE SHOW & DIE? SORRY I HAVE ADD LOL & FINALLY WHY DID THEY LET ROUSEU LIVE? I BET SHE HAD A FEW OF THEM… THERE IS A DEEPER CONNECTION-SHE MUST BE VERY IMPORTANT TO BE THERE OR A DEEPER INVOLVEMENT ROLE -BUT NOPE THEY JUST WENT & KILLED HER, MOST OUT OF ORDER! NOTICE THE GLANCES BETWEEN HER & BEN AS THOUGH THEY KNEW EACHOTHER WELL??? OK I’LL SHUT UP NOW
Comment by M — May 23, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
1. Widmore and Paik are in cahoots.
2. Widmore and Paik pay the O6 (through Oceanic, which they also probably own) a ludicrous sum of money to keep quiet about the island and the coverup.
3. While we know Losties don’t care for material goods, they realize by now the chain of command and that if they take the money, they can pool it and buy out Paik Industries, thus crippling Widmore and allowing them to hatch a plan to save the other Losties and the island. In this way Widmore and Paik bring about their own downfall.
Or, they could all be in purgatory.
Comment by Darel — May 24, 2008 @ 6:32 am
I want to know what’s going to BLOW UP when someone finds out that there are actually 7 survivors… Remember Walt?
Comment by JB — May 25, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
Just thought I’d throw my two cents in:
1. There is a definative Widmore/Paik connection. In D.O.C, Sun meets her father in a flashaback. Right before she meets him he is talking to some Korean associates and they are talking furiously in Korean. There are no subtitles but it was translated and they were talking about getting the freighter ready to go. Just thought I’d clear that up.
2. I think we are gonna find out that Michael worked for Widmore Construction. I don’t know what it would mean about the grand scheme of things but I think we will find that out. Michael worked for construction… thats about the best evidence I got. Sorry no other explanation, just a gut instinct.
3. If they never address how much money they received in the settlement I could see the producers writing Sun’s take over as a some what implausible stretch, cuz it would take millions, probably hundreds of millions to take over a company like that. If Paik was really really big it could even be billions. However, I also think its totally possible that Hurley donated his money to Sun or that the Oceanic 6 pooled money together. I don’t believe Miles’ 3.2 million had anything to do with it, because I’m convinced that was code for the 3.25 bearing needed to get off the island. Miles knows what is up with Ben and wants to get in with him.
4. On the matter of Rousseau I think there are a couple of different possibilities. Ive been thinking about the connection between the time traveling sickness and Rousseau’s story and the story of the children. What if she did have Alex off island but when she got on island began flashing back and forth during her pregnancy and got confused as to who when she was. This would mean that Alex in both the pre-birth and post-birth stage was Rousseau’s constant. Also what if the babies were flashing through time while in the womb, which would mean they were flashing through out their entire life and the constant is their mother’s womb or whatever and when they are born their little hearts fail because their constant is gone. It would be pretty scary if we found out Aaron had been flashing throughout his life already.
Just some long winded and pretentious thoughts from me… thanks for any who sit and read through that.
Comment by Jalocke — May 26, 2008 @ 7:25 am
What if part of the money Sun used came from Ben. We know he is well connected and financed off of the Island. He definitely escapes the Island. He is definitely very capable of manipulating people to do what he needs.
So Jin dies on the Island. Sun is sick with grief. She gets off with everyone else. Ben gets off the Island and recriuts Sayid as his assassin. He needs info and sees a golden opportunity to get the information he needs and hurt Widmore at the same time. He recruits Sun with the old “Paik and Widmore (it was his frieghter that will prolly explode killing him and Michael and maybe Desmond) killed your husband. Here’s how we can stick it to ‘em. All I need you to do is use your money to buy a controlling intrest in Paik industries.” line.
Comment by Axensmash — May 29, 2008 @ 9:35 am