Readers Theorize about “The Economist”
Despite the mind-blowing events of the first two episodes of Lost season 4, it seems that "The Economist" has brought out the highest number of diverging theories. TTS readers had a lot to say on Ben’s true intentions, Naomi’s mysterious bracelet, and the time anomaly that seems to be surrounding the island. Read on for some of the best and most complicated theories surrounding this episode.
Regarding Ben’s motives for using Sayid as a hired gun, locke_look_alike thinks he may be with the military. "I went back and looked at a few Sayid-centric episodes and began to question whether Ben may actually be wrapped up in military intelligence. Does anyone else recall an episode when Sayid is out of Iraq but roped back into some intelligence work? Also — in a past Sayid-centric episode with flashbacks to Iraq, he is riding in a transport vehicle with American forces — one asks if he has family and then looks at a picture of a woman who looks a lot like Kate. Not such a big deal perhaps but I wonder what if anything may become of that."
One of the big questions left by the episode was whether Ben is leaving the island regularly and using those passports that Sayid discovered. If so, how does he do it? "Time on the rocket was different, Ben gets off the island, seemingly often," Jimi pointed out. "I propose that Ben has a time machine, and it’s use warps local time on the island, therefore causing a time discrepancy on the rocket."
Another option, according to Mark B, is that Ben has actually never left the island. "There was an episode way back when where Sawyer was having headaches," he remembered. "Jack did his doctor thing found he was having trouble reading, prescribed some reading glasses so he could finish reading ‘The Evil Twin’. Nothing on ‘Lost’ is for nothing, even Hurley finding an old bus, fixing it and driving it in circles the whole episode. That bus saved the day. So that book that kept Sawyer’s interest so much for so long, ‘The Evil Twin’ just showed us the last page. Ben, the Sayid’s boss Ben is not island Ben. Sayid’s Ben is ‘the evil twin’. Ben is the ‘Good Twin’."
Resident guitar player edyvanhalen thinks that "The freighter people are in fact on Ben’s side and have been sent in to come and rescue him from the losties. Ben is trying to make out like he and they are enemies to throw the losties off suspicion. The ship is simply Ben’s ship that is regularly moored off island so he can come and go."
While Ben’s intentions, as always, remain a mystery, we can instead theorize about Naomi’s inscribed bracelet. "It’s kind of improbable, but I’ll just throw it out there," Lily offered. "Perhaps Sayid gave the bracelet to Nadia (the girl he was in love with while he was in the Republican Guard). Hence, the ‘N’ on the bracelet stands for ‘Nadia’ and the ‘RG’ stands for ‘Republican Guard’? Hmmm."
Ben and the bracelet are certainly interesting topics, but nothing gets the brains of Lost fans spinning like theories regarding time travel. Thanks to Faraday’s island experiment, people had a lot of thoughts regarding time displacement. "Why is everyone assuming the clock is only 31 minutes off?!!?" Tom asked. "There is no date on that device. The watch could be 1 year and 31 minutes off or 10 years and 31 minutes off or even 1000 years and 31 minutes off."
Glenn thinks that there may be some interesting time travel going on amongst the freighter crew. "For starters, in last week’s episode, they showed a picture of Ben in an Airport. Assuming Ben was being honest saying he never left the island, that picture must have been from the future. And obviously, Ben did get off of the island as we saw him at the kennel/pound with Sayid.
In the experiment that Faraday conducted, we know that Island Time is different that time in the rest of the world.
So, here is final theory: What if some group of people (Abaddon’s perhaps) are trying to prevent the killings that Ben is committing, and have gone back in time through the power of the island to catch him before he gets off, thus preventing the murders he orders, and thus supporting the theory that many have of alternate time lines?"
A group of people from the future going back in time to prevent murders that haven’t happened yet? With Lost, just about anything is possible.
Also — in a past Sayid-centric episode with flashbacks to Iraq, he is riding in a transport vehicle with American forces — one asks if he has family and then looks at a picture of a woman who looks a lot like Kate.
Yeah, that was Sam Austen.
Comment by Ben Conant — February 18, 2008 @ 10:31 am
Here’s one; Ben made a deal with the losties that if they helped him kill the freighter 4, Ben would get them off the island. However, 6 must go public (to thwart the people behind the Oceanic coverup) as survivors, and they all must keep the secret of the island.
It would explain why Abaddon asked Hurley if “they” are still alive, and why Abaddon wants Ben.
I don’t think we’ll ever see what the island does, and how Ben and others are so attached to it.
Comment by boobs — February 18, 2008 @ 10:42 am
Sorry, I don’t mean to bash anyone’s theory, but I braclett inscripted with the intials of the Republican Guard given to a woman Nadia that was tortured and lost friends and family to the very same people is a little over the top. That would be like a survivor of the Holocaust wearing in inscripted braclett from Adolf Hiltler or the S.S. Sorry not plausible. I do however think that Elsa and Naomi are working for the same person/group, and that is why they have similar bracletts and probably similar inscriptions. Also I think for the writer’s to introduce Ben having a twin would be a little unfair to the viewers considering that up until this point there has been no mention of it and we were there for Ben’s birth and part of his childhood. I do think that Ben leaves the island a lot, how and why I do not know. Another thing about Ben that is becoming fishy is the fact that he keeps shooting all this people in the wrong spots. This is particuarly pecuilar in the cas of John Locke, because Ben knew that he was missing his left kidney, yet that is the one place he decided to shoot not to mention the only place.
I do however have any intreasting theory on Hurley and the person in the coffin in “The Looking Glass.” We know from the season premiere that Hurley regrets his decision to go with Locke, however we don’t know why? We know that Hurley gets off the island, but as it stands right now he is with Locke’s group that wants to stay on the island. We also know that Hurley wants to be put in a mental institution and that the last time he was in am institution it was because of represssed guilt he felt for the people dying in the deck accident. Also we know that by the time we see Jack in the “Looking Glass” he wants to try and go back to the island, but when he meets with Hurley he doesn’t agree that they should go back. My theory is that Hurley is the body in the coffin, i know a lot of you think that the person is black, because the funeral parlor is in a “black neighborhood”, but that is a sterotype. What is a “black neighborhood” and do only black people die there? We know that there is no one at the funeral and this is due to Hurley retuning to a curse that has taken everyone he loves. I think that something happen to some of the survivors, maybe even death, that Hurley feels responsible for, and that is the reason that he is being “haunted” by Charlie and wants to be locked in an institution again. The reason I believe Hurley bertrays the group is because of his actions already with the Locke group in that he lied to Kate and Sayid about being tied up and left behind. A decision that I’m sure shocked all of us and goes against the morale make-up of a charecter that is to this point maybe the most beloved on the show. I think the inability to do anything about getting back to the island and the guilt of what he did or did not do gets to him and he is left with no choice, but suicide or what is made to look like one. When Jack reads this in the “Looking Glass” he is almost driven to suicide himself, I think because he feels guilty for not intially beliving Hurley about needing to get back to the island and feels partially responible for Hurley’s death. Kate also blames Hurley for what happens and this is the reason that she would not attend his funeral. Sound pretty solid to me, but please be my guest and shoots some holes in it.
Comment by Eric Larson — February 18, 2008 @ 11:49 am
Sorry, I don’t mean to bash anyone’s theory, but I braclett inscripted with the intials of the Republican Guard given to a woman Nadia that was tortured and lost friends and family to the very same people is a little over the top. That would be like a survivor of the Holocaust wearing in inscripted braclett from Adolf Hiltler or the S.S. Sorry not plausible. I do however think that Elsa and Naomi are working for the same person/group, and that is why they have similar bracletts and probably similar inscriptions. Also I think for the writer’s to introduce Ben having a twin would be a little unfair to the viewers considering that up until this point there has been no mention of it and we were there for Ben’s birth and part of his childhood. I do think that Ben leaves the island a lot, how and why I do not know. Another thing about Ben that is becoming fishy is the fact that he keeps shooting all this people in the wrong spots. This is particuarly pecuilar in the cas of John Locke, because Ben knew that he was missing his left kidney, yet that is the one place he decided to shoot not to mention the only place.
I do however have any intreasting theory on Hurley and the person in the coffin in “The Looking Glass.” We know from the season premiere that Hurley regrets his decision to go with Locke, however we don’t know why? We know that Hurley gets off the island, but as it stands right now he is with Locke’s group that wants to stay on the island. We also know that Hurley wants to be put in a mental institution and that the last time he was in am institution it was because of represssed guilt he felt for the people dying in the deck accident. Also we know that by the time we see Jack in the “Looking Glass” he wants to try and go back to the island, but when he meets with Hurley he doesn’t agree that they should go back. My theory is that Hurley is the body in the coffin, i know a lot of you think that the person is black, because the funeral parlor is in a “black neighborhood”, but that is a sterotype. What is a “black neighborhood” and do only black people die there? We know that there is no one at the funeral and this is due to Hurley retuning to a curse that has taken everyone he loves. I think that something happen to some of the survivors, maybe even death, that Hurley feels responsible for, and that is the reason that he is being “haunted” by Charlie and wants to be locked in an institution again. The reason I believe Hurley bertrays the group is because of his actions already with the Locke group in that he lied to Kate and Sayid about being tied up and left behind. A decision that I’m sure shocked all of us and goes against the morale make-up of a charecter that is to this point maybe the most beloved on the show. I think the inability to do anything about getting back to the island and the guilt of what he did or did not do gets to him and he is left with no choice, but suicide or what is made to look like one. When Jack reads this in the “Looking Glass” he is almost driven to suicide himself, I think because he feels guilty for not intially beliving Hurley about needing to get back to the island and feels partially responible for Hurley’s death. Kate also blames Hurley for what happens and this is the reason that she would not attend his funeral. Sound pretty solid to me, but please be my guest and shoots some holes in it.
Comment by Eric Larson — February 18, 2008 @ 11:49 am
I wonder about Sayid’s background. They never mention anything of his family. Most other characters have “Daddy issues”. Maybe Sayid’s Dad has something to do with all of this. My guess on the coffin person is Juilette though.
Comment by J.L. — February 18, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
I don’t think Ben has a time machine. I just think time moves at a slower pace on the island compared to the rest of the world and it all has to do with the higher levels of electromagnetism on the island.
I don’t think Ben is a twin. They showed his birth in his flashback and there was no twin.
Comment by Mike — February 18, 2008 @ 12:13 pm
“Also — in a past Sayid-centric episode with flashbacks to Iraq, he is riding in a transport vehicle with American forces — one asks if he has family and then looks at a picture of a woman who looks a lot like Kate. Not such a big deal perhaps but I wonder what if anything may become of that.?”
Just a comment for locke_look_alike, the soldier in the transport with a picture is Kate’s dad Sergeant Major Sam Austen. He appeared in What Kate Did (02.09) and One of Them (02.14).
Great theories though, everyone!
Comment by Schwartz — February 18, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
How can Ben have an evil twin? We saw the episode when Ben was born and have seen Ben’s flashback as a child. Only one kid popped out of that woman. So, logic suggests that this Evil Twin is a bit far-fetched.
Comment by Dale — February 18, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
They mean having an Evil Twin in an alternate time/place.
Haven’t you seen Back to the Future?
Comment by boob — February 18, 2008 @ 1:37 pm
They mean having an Evil Twin in an alternate time/place.
Haven’t you seen Back to the Future?
P.S. the comment posting error’s are fucking retarded
Comment by boobs — February 18, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
So the physicist told the pilot to specifically follow a heading and not to deviate. Being that this is the same thing Ben told Michael and Walt when they were taking the boat away. He was also told that he would run into a shipping lane. So I believe that Michael is the spy on the ship.
Comment by keith roberts — February 18, 2008 @ 2:33 pm
“Sound pretty solid to me, but please be my guest and shoots some holes in it.”
Ok.
1. I think they’d need a bigger coffin for Hurley.
2. The obituary Jack read has a different name and says whoever is in the coffin is survived by a teenaged son.
3. When posed with the question “friend or family” at the funeral parlour, pretty sure he wouldn’t have replied “neither” if it was Hurley.
Cheers!
Comment by Rain — February 18, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
We know it was ONLY 31 minutes and not a year and 31 minutes because it literally appeared 31 minutes after it was supposed to. Daniel did the experiment at the beginning of the episode, and then the rocket finally appeared toward the end (roughly half an hour later).
PLUS, the Regina that Daniel was talking to was 31 minutes in the future, too, and so it wouldn’t make sense that she was 1000 years in the future.
Comment by Michael Johnon — February 18, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
I think we’ve been given a couple subtle clues recently that are set-ups for future reveals. One was in The Economist.
Jack asked Frank about the Red Sox winning the World Series and Frank comments on his own support for the Yankees. It’s a pretty innocuous conversation, and Jack mutters under his breath that he can’t believe it’s been 100 days. Jack is talking about the 2004 World Series, which Ben showed him on video in the Hydra, but I have a weird feeling Frank is talking about the more recent 2007 World Series, which the Sox also won. Time distortion is now firmly part of the story, so I think this was a subtle set-up.
The other subtle clue was in Confirmed Dead when we briefly saw the plane’s pilot, Seth Norris, on the screen. I kind of laughed that he had a moustache in the photo, but I wonder now whether this might have been a deliberate choice. I wonder if this was like the changing picture frames in Miles’ scene, showing us that there are different time lines in play. If so, it raises the distinct possibility that the plane in the trench is not a fake, but is simply from a different time line, perhaps one in which Captain Norris is not married and therefore doesn’t wear a ring, or one in which Frank was the pilot and that is *his* body on the plane rather than Norris’s. If it broke up over the Island it could have emerged in another time line to crash in the trench.
(I realize it’s a foregone conclusion amongst most people that the plane is a phony prop planted by persons nefarious, but I’ve never been entirely convinced of this. I believed it even less when the underwater footage showed that the plane had broken into the same three pieces it broke into above the island.)
Comment by Ed Holden — February 18, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Eric Larson,
I can’t shoot any holes in your theory….because I can’t read your post. with all the typos and congested wording I was forced to read the first couple sentences and then skip all the way to the last one. it sounded like you had some interesting things to say. I’d like to read your thoughts, so next time clean it up a little bit.
Comment by Dr. Nope — February 18, 2008 @ 6:33 pm
I have a weird feeling Frank is talking about the more recent 2007 World Series, which the Sox also won.
But 2004 is the year in which Boston beat NY in the ALCS, while the Yankees lost to the Indians in the divisional playoffs in 2007. I don’t think a Yankees fan would be quite so upset about the 2007 Series.
Comment by dcs — February 18, 2008 @ 6:55 pm
But 2004 is the year in which Boston beat NY in the ALCS, while the Yankees lost to the Indians in the divisional playoffs in 2007. I don’t think a Yankees fan would be quite so upset about the 2007 Series.
Quite true, dcs, I had considered this. I know that if the opposite were true Boston would be ever troubled by a Yankee win, championship or no, but that the rivalry doesn’t necessarily work the opposite way. That’s certainly an argument against my theory.
Comment by Ed Holden — February 18, 2008 @ 7:31 pm
I’m sorry to point this out, but this site has really lost it. This use to be a top notch Lost site. This is no longer the case. Thetailsection.com use to be full of smart post…..Now it’s full of idiotic posts. It’s really too bad DocArzt left town. I’m just glad that he has another site because this one is a disgrace to the show.
Comment by AW — February 18, 2008 @ 8:09 pm
“Eric Larson, I can’t shoot any holes in your theory….because I can’t read your post. with all the typos and congested wording I was forced to read the first couple sentences and then skip all the way to the last one. it sounded like you had some interesting things to say. I’d like to read your thoughts, so next time clean it up a little bit.”
Dude…is there really any reason to be so smug and condescending? No, there’s not.
Comment by dude — February 18, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
Okay here I go:]
Micheal may be the one on the boat but I think he made it home though first. I keep hearing (SPOILER) that in the Micheal centric episode he runs into Mr. Friendly off the island. Which confuses me cause I thought that because of the Locke imploding the hatch the sub could only go out once and never come back. But then I thought, didn’t the Others steal Desmond’s boat? So maybe when word got to the Others that people were getting close to finding Ben, Ben sent Mr. Friendly to Micheal and had him get on that boat somehow. whew! anybody?
Comment by wetblanket — February 18, 2008 @ 10:24 pm
As far as who’s in the coffin, I immediately figured it was Sawyer, as Jack would reply “neither” friend nor family when asked, AND if the flash forward was more like 13 years in the future, it could be the child that it has been alluded to that Kate is (may be?) pregnant with. I know the flash forward at the end of season 3 also made the audience think that Kate was hurrying home to get back to Sawyer, but she COULD be hurrying home to get to her son.
hmmm…
Comment by locah — February 18, 2008 @ 11:54 pm
I love this site. I love reading other people’s intelligent theories. I HATE running into a spoiler. If you’re going to ruin arguably the greatest show ever for yourself, that’s fine. But don’t bring them to these boards PLEASE!!
Ed Holden– I love your theory. There’s no doubt that there is a time difference of some sort in play here. I have to disagree with the idea that it would have to be 2004 for a Yankees fan to be bitter. The Yankees had a disappointing season, relatively speaking. They got beat in the first round of the playoffs and parted ways with 12 year manager Joe Torre. Meanwhile, the Red Sox won their 2nd World Series in four years.
Jack DID mutter under his breath that it had been 100 days since he’d seen a baseball game. Had Faraday heard his comment, he may have had Jack elaborate, opening up the can of worms in the process. As of the first three episodes in this season, there has been NO TALK between the new arrivals of the island and our Losties about the date. And I would bet the farm that there will be none until the final episode of the season. Walt is supporting evidence. He confronted Locke looking three years older than when they crashed. And the experiment only supports it further.
If you think about all the people we’ve seen in the flash-forwards, you’d see that some time has gone by since the crash. For example, Sarah is pregnant, and probably married, by the time we see her in Jack’s flashback in last season’s finale. While we can’t be sure, that seems to indicate that we are at least 2-3 years into the future. Ana-Lucia’s partner seems to have made his way up the ladder. That’s all I can remember seeing so far. But watch for recurring characters and watch for drastic changes in their lives. Changes that normally would require time.
Hell, watch for anything. If no discussion of world politics or current events or the date take place, then there’s probably something to it. Holden, I think you nailed this one.
Comment by showstop — February 19, 2008 @ 1:25 am
I really love this site its gr8 reading everyones theories! Can anyone tell me what the black smoke monster thing is?
Comment by John — February 19, 2008 @ 3:22 am
lost is fecking confusing. i really love it but have decided to stop questioning what is happening and just wach it all unfold.
but theory-wise. i’m all for time lines and how everyone has different peceptions of time on the island, off the island, everywhere. mind you, i think this of real life anyway!! this is the only thing i have decided upon!!
Comment by confussed — February 19, 2008 @ 6:09 am
It’s ok I don’t mind a little constructive critisism, but why waste time proof reading when 75% percent of what I write gets erased by some posting error. SOMEONE SHOULD REALLY FIX THAT. Rain_I asked for holes and those are pretty good ones. I never took the time to freeze frame the article that Jack was holding, so I was clueless to those facts, thanks. I’m going to hold on to my theory, but I am probably wrong. I do think it is possible that more time has gone by then the Losties are aware of, but not from Lapidus’s reaction to Jack’s question about the Red Sox. I agree with DCS in that 2004 was a lot more dissappointing for Yankees fans. The Yankees were up 3 games to 0 on the Red Sox, before the Sox pulled off the improbable and came back to beat the Yankees. A feat that had only been done I think a couple of times other than that year. So, as far as the rivalary goes between Red Soxs fans and Yankees fans, 2004 left a lot for Yankees fans to be bitter about. That said I do think that it is strange that Jack would mention how it feels like they had been there a lot longer than they had twice in three episodes.
Comment by Eric Larson — February 19, 2008 @ 6:48 am
What if Ben has a twin? He could be the one making Sayid kill these other people in order to save his friends that the real “Ben” is holding on the island. I know, it’s crazy, but you never know. . .
Comment by TM — February 19, 2008 @ 6:50 am
I think so far the writing on the show has been intelligent and even with all the oddities and mysteries that the series presents up to this point nothing feels forced or cheap. If they decide to write in that Ben has an evil twin I would be really interested as to how that comes about, becuse as it stands I think it sounds cheap and a real easy way to explain things. I am not saying that it’s not possible, but I for one certainly hope that they don’t.
Comment by Eric Larson — February 19, 2008 @ 7:08 am
I’m pretty sure the person in the coffin will be Michael. Black neighbourhood, survived by a teenage son, Walt, and the reason why no one went? Well he did kill two people and betray everyone over to the Others.
I think that when Desmond goes to the boat and discovers Michael is Ben’s man on the inside we’ll find that he’s actually a good guy just like Ben is a good guy.
On a side note…how awesome was it when Sayid was like ‘they know I’m after them’ and Ben goes…’good.’ ooo i got goosebumps
Comment by Thiger — February 19, 2008 @ 7:23 am
I am willing to wager that the Ben and Sayid scene was a flashback and not a flashforward.
Comment by NL — February 19, 2008 @ 8:32 am
NL_ couple of questions regarding you flashback theory. How are Sayid’s friends that Ben askes if he wants to save? Why would Elsa bring up the crash if it hadn’t happened yet? In my opinon the fact that she brought it up was to prove it was a flash-forward. Or are you saying that Sayid being shot and Ben fixing that wound (a wound found in the same place that he was shot ny Elsa) happened at different times?
Comment by Eric Larson — February 19, 2008 @ 8:38 am
sorry. Who are Sayid’s friends that he is protecting?
Comment by Eric Larson — February 19, 2008 @ 8:40 am
The crash could have been from when he was in the army, it was a very nonspecific question. SHe didn’t ask what is was like being one of the Oceanic 6, becasue that hasn’t happened yet. In the flashforward on the golf course, it is quite clear that Sayid has put on a considerable amount of weight. The flashback with Ben is the Elsa shot, but Sayid is skinnier, hence it happened before the island. THe friends that Ben refers too could be Iraqi army buddies, which brings me to another theory, that Ben is in the CIA.
Comment by NL — February 19, 2008 @ 9:38 am
“I am willing to wager that the Ben and Sayid scene was a flashback and not a flashforward.”
Its a flash forward i would say as Sayid says to the man “Im one of the oceanic six” the guys freaks and trys to leave and is shot. I find it highly unlikely that Sayid has got the exact same hair many years apart, to prove they are part of the same time frame.
Comment by Tom — February 19, 2008 @ 10:03 am
There are two Bens. The original, and one from a different time/space. The Ben existing in the island world is trying to knock off the Ben who doesn’t belong in the island world. How you ask is this possible?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4bTvAUVPyLI
How is there 1 rabbit #15 and then another magically appears out of thin air? Why does the scientist shout “Keep them away from each other?” Most likely because they are the same thing, and two of the same beings cannot co-exist in the same time/space without one trying to destroy the other in a battle for self.
I hate that I always get this error when I try to post: Too many comments have been submitted from you in a short period of time. Please try again in a short while. I got this error the first time I ever posted. Please fix this bug.
Comment by BlackPearlNecklace — February 19, 2008 @ 10:10 am
Please fix the posting problem! Nine times out of 10, when I try to post anything I get the same error everyone else is getting. I’m sure that’s why there are so few followups these days.
Comment by Fix the Bug — February 19, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
I’m new so forgive me if this is way out of whack, but I think that Naomi could be Sayids daughter. The bracelet she wore probably came from Nadia to her daughter. I think that Sayid grabbed it when he saw it on her wrist (Naomi’s) and took it with him into the future. Then, gave it to his new love interest (fogot her name)–the woman who shot him- and that is how it ended up on her wrist…..just a thought, probably way out of the ballpark, but it just popped into my head!!
Comment by Callily — February 19, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
Okay, first off, he’s more likely than not talking about the 2004 world series… i can’t remember if we’ve seen a date in the first 3 episodes this season… have we? regardless, we’re going to be dealing with walt 3 years older because we’re dealing with him in the FFs most likely. They tried to hide it some with angles in the season 3 finale… which most likely is supposed to represent present island time walt as opposed to future walt (current age-ish)… It appears that they have lived back in the real world for awhile now and it seems to be 2007/2008… meaning that Lapidus is talking 2004.
I agree that there is stuff messed up with time… and I was excited with the second part of that post… if you’re talking about the lost writers now showing two timelines in scenes, that could lead to some interesting possibilities. I won’t buy in completely to the evil twin theory, but showing a “twin” by showing a different timeline copy is interesting indeed… i’m still curious about the ending to the episode that eko died… with him walking off with his brother… different timeline? a fixed timeline (with eko dead on the island)?
Third, I could see hurley in the coffin… well, not that size coffin. hmm… still most likely michael… but what about Miles or Daniel. If they do make it off and such, they’ve most likely made deals with someone (or ones)… The answer “neither” is important: only Michael (New Yorker) -Daniel- Miles (in LA in flashback?) really fit that profile right now… Sawyer too, i guess… but doubtful. But I would think that there is a small possibility that the person was killed. I believe that the newspaper allegedly says something about noises coming from the apartment prior to the person being found. and with this small possibility brings another interesting possibility: what if the killer of the person in the coffin is none other than… SAYID!
I guess that’s it. Other than PLEASE FIX THE POSTING SYSTEM!!!
Comment by hurleybird — February 19, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
Tom, the scene you speak of is obviously a flashforward, my contention is that when Sayid is in berlin it is a flashback based on, among other things, his body shape. THe golf course scene includes a wide shot from Sayid’s side with a prominet ‘beer belly’, which is not there in berlin. The director wants you to think that he is Berlin after the golf course based on the timeline of thescenes onthe episode, but that is what Lost is all about, distraction and distortion
Comment by NL — February 19, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
BTW, I get the same exact error!
Hi. Haven’t chimed in for a while. I hope everyone is well!
I can wholly relate to the doppelganger theory of Ben… and of anyone else, for that matter. There is something strange happening in Islandville (as if we didn’t already know that) and this includes some sort of matter / anti-matter phenomenon, along with the abnormal space/time flow factor. I can totally see Ben and Jack, etc. living parallel lives to the ones we are being shown. And, who knows how many strands run parallel to the ones we see? All this is juxtapositioned with the cloning rabbits incident, as well as the space and time disorientation. Whew! Is your head spinning yet?
Also, I really do love the whole “Terminator” philosophy of the Freighter Four (copyrighted)coming from the future. Now, we’ve opened up this infinite can of worm [hole]s that includes not only “where” people are from, but also “what time” they are from. Oh Lord, this is getting EXTREMELY interesting!
Imelda
(Sawyer-generated nickname)
Comment by Imelda — February 19, 2008 @ 4:28 pm