Charlie Dead? I think not.
Right, well, I have absolutely no proof at all that my thoughts from here on in are accurate, but there’s also virtually no proof that I’m wrong either. With next Wednesday being a Charlie episode combined with Desmond’s premonition of his death, the biggest question that should be on our minds is does Charlie die this Wednesday? Most of us have probably written him off, but I’m not so sure. Click on through to hear why and chime in with your own thoughts.
Is Charlie a goner? I don’t think we should write him off just yet. There’s the spoilers from Kristin posted on Spoilerfix.com, and the confirmed deaths from DarkUFO, but there’s been plenty of times when spoilers have proven to be foilers, and I think in this case that they are foilers.
1. It’s too obvious.
In episodes past we’ve seen the LOST writing staff do completely the opposite of what we would expect. When Ben shot Locke, when Juliet turns out not to be a mole, when Jacob seems to be a figment of Ben’s imagination but then something more… That’s just last week’s episode. We’ve been told Charlie is going to die, and we know that main character deaths occur in their flashback episodes, but I think we’ve been mislead here in a very clever way. I think it would be very unLOSTlike to do what we think they will do.
Not only that, it would be so easy to do just that. Instead, especially with the lack of popularity for Charlie (reading the comments over at DarkUFO, people don’t seem to be upset at all about Charlie, rather the other two posted), it would be more interesting if Charlie could redeem himself to us.
2. There’s more to him.
Eko’s death brought this point to mind. After we’ve seen the important parts of a character’s life, they tend to get killed off. Unless there’s something amazing that is going to happen to Charlie this week, I don’t think they’ve even got started telling the more interesting parts of Charlie’s life. We saw the majority of Eko’s life, from killing that child when he was younger, to Yemi’s death, to the priesthood and to Claire’s psychic, we got a pretty good look at it all. He was done. With Charlie on the other hand, we got a twisted childhood dream thing, then a little glance at him playing a horrible version of Wonderwall (which I hear we will pick up from again this week, from a filiming report at DarkUFO), then to his pop career and drug addiciton. I think there’s more left, namely, what’s in between childhood and Wonderwall. Something better than Definitely Maybe, I hope.
3. I like him. So do others.
Hopefully not The Others or else kidnapping might be more in order than murder, but the truth is: I like Charlie. He’s more comic relief for the show that Hurley. I remember a line along the lines of, "It’s French! I’ve never been so glad to hear the French!" Bring more of that back, and some more character development and Charlie will be great again. And I think that’s what’s in store for him.
All in all, I will be disappointed to see Charlie leave. He’s a good character, and like most of our other LOSTies, he just needs more screen time. There’s more to him, and I would expect the writers, given the history of big twists with anticipated events, would be more ‘twisted’ with this event. I think the Charlie problem will get resolved, but not how most of us think.
But, of course, I have no proof.
I really hope your right,and it does make sense. Since we’ve been “told” by Desmond it wouldn’t be a surpise,and the writers like to suprise us. Unless they are all counting that we’ll think that…ah the cycle of doom….
Comment by Haleigh krantz — May 13, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
I agree with you. I doubt Charlie will die. The whole setup seems way too obvious. I also agree that he needs more screen time. Besides, I think it would be cool if Ben confronted him about killing Ethan. Just a thought.
Comment by booker44k — May 13, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
you may have a point i think it would be obvious to just kill off charley hardly any suprises there, and i think it was a bit strange for them to allow such big spoilers to be released before the show on who dies,personally i hope he lives, i think it would be to obvious to just kill off charley
Comment by nickk — May 13, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
I think that killing Charlie is the only way to satisfy what has been building for the entire second half of the season. I think that where the writers will be very “lost-like” is in the way they kill him. I love Charlie and hate to see him go, but he could definitely “compensate”, if you will, for a lack of screen time (or even redeem himself for that matter) with an iconic, legendary death that saves the castaways or leads them to their ultimate rescue. The twist, though, may lie in the possibility that they wait until the finale to do it instead of doing it this week. I for one, however, hope that if they are going to do it, that they do him justice and 1.) kill him off “on his own” apart from the other projected deaths in the finale by doing it this week, and 2.) make him a legend or icon on the show by making his death VERY important to the advancement of the bigger storyline.
This is not to mention that it will validate Desmond’s “gift”.
One aside, I have an irking fear that in a highly emotional move, we may see Hurley killed in the finale. Does anyone remember how intensely emotional it was when 24 killed Edgar Stiles? I REALLY hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am.
Comment by browny770 — May 13, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
you have a point about the It’s too obvious. But i really hope your wrong and he is a goner as the whole yout going to die charlie but he doesnt die is getting boring IMHO. Also Charlie is a pointless character at this point and dont see what else there is for him
Comment by steve — May 13, 2007 @ 7:12 pm
I think the real question is whether or not Dominic is scheduled to be on Regis and Kelley on Thursday….
Comment by C — May 13, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
Maybe…I’ve asked Dark multiple times why his sources would allow him to release such highly sensitive info. He never answers me….
Comment by Muscle_Bob_Buff_Pants — May 13, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
maybe charley is the mole, i haven’t heard anyone say charlie is the mole, that would be a good twist,but he killed ethan so i guess that wouldn’t work,but mikhail killed that woman, they could call it a twist too far!
Comment by nickk — May 13, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
browny770,
Thank you so much for spoiling whats probably a huge event in 24, with the death of Edgar Stiles. Especially considering the fact that I’ve never seen 24, and was on my list of TV series’ to watch. Next time be a bit more discreet when revealing spoilers, especially considering they’re for another show…
Comment by rindrasi — May 13, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
I dunno, I think he may die because while may deaths have been shockers, Charlie knows his death is coming which could make for an incredibly dramatic episode of him accepting it and of course, Claire dealing with it and Desmond frustrated and feeling sorry for himself for not having the power to stop it.
Comment by Pete — May 13, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
It’s not really that big of an event and is several season in to the show so by the time you get their, you’re likely to forget that comment anyway.
Comment by PEter — May 13, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
I’ve never seen E.T., so if anyone is planning on talking about the end stop right now, I’m going to watch it next weekend. ;b
Comment by doc pedro — May 13, 2007 @ 7:44 pm
Doc, I agree with ya! To be honest, Charlie was one of my favorite characters in season 1, where he provided a lot of the comic relief. He became a sort of brooding presence towards the middle of last season and this season, and I think that’s where the bordome and dislike of his character come from. I’d love to see Charlie redeem himself. I agree that they were too obvious with setting up his death, and I don’t want it to be predictable. It’s not like TPTB at all.
Besides, Charlie’s presence furthers Desmond’s own story. I mean, how cool would it be to see Desmond learn that there is a way to change the future, to stop the universe from correcting itself? To see Desmond be able to change fate would be a huge throwback to the fate theme of the show.
Comment by losty09 — May 13, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
Didn’t I read on thetailsection earlier this season that one of the producers said that, by the end of season three, Charlie’s storyline would be very important or significant to the overall plot of Lost?
(Sorry, that was a horribly constructed sentence.)
Comment by Random Zombie — May 13, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Very interesting thoughts
Comment by White Shoe Jack — May 13, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
IMDB.com, if you pull up the Lost section and then link to the season 4 sub-section, you’ll see the Charlie isn’t cast at all. Perhaps Charlie does die or this site is getting it’s information from the sources that assume Charlie is dead. I don’t know. Just thought I’d point that out.
Comment by Dale — May 13, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Wouldn’t it be a kicker if someone else gave their life for Charlie, doing whatever it is that Charlie “has to die” doing to save everybody?
Comment by tomfishstory — May 13, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
Nickk, there is actually a general theory that Charlie is a mole, and he killed Ethan so quickly so that his identity could be protected. I dont actually believe this because i feel charlie is not smart enough to figure out everything it takes to be a mole.
On the topic of charlie’s death, i agree with those saying that charlie needs to go. The writers/producers can’t keep giving the threat that charlie is going to die, and then just take it away every single week. Otherwise, people will actually just want charlie to die to spite the writers. So, i agree that he needs to go with dignity in a surprise move, not have it reach a point that people want him to die becuase they are annoyed by the storylines.
Also, if dominick goes then he and evangeline wont be able to spend much time together = better chance for me
Comment by kd — May 13, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
im sorry to say this, but Charlie is doomed.. the LOST writers love to throw us for loops, but i think this time, it would be more of a surprise if he DID die, than if he didnt… so he’s definitely gonna die.. and it’s more than likely happening this week… im certain… i like Charlie and all, but i think he’s definitely done for….
i have a feeling he’ll go out in a very heroic fashion… he’ll probably die while doing something that saves another Losie or something that will benefit everyone…. either way, he’s definitely gonna be dead by the end of the season… im 100% certain on that…
Comment by Monk — May 13, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
No, he is not supposed to appear on regis and kelly but josh holloway is going to be on the view on that thursday..so i am hoping and praying thats just a show appearance and not a last death on lost appearance
Comment by mike — May 13, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
I hope you’re wrong. Nothe against you Doc, but your reasoning this time isn’t that sound. We never got any of the heavy stuff about Boone and he ended up dead. I also feel it’s a waste to be building up a death and Desmond’s flashes just to turn around and say “gotchya”. I understand the concept of misdirection but NOT killing Charlie after alluding to it all season is a little unfair to the viewers IMHO. Also, wouldn’t it be going against what Desmond learned in “Flashes Before Your Eyes” that you can delay death with misdirection but never escape it.
Comment by SirREggie — May 13, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
I swear though, if Charlie dies, someone like Jack or Kate better die. Either that, or Jack gets off the Island and Sawyer becomes the “leader” of everyone.
Charlie hasn’t had much screen time lately. To give him just one more episode, then kill him off is so rotten. I’ve grown so tired of Kate’s stupidity, and Jack’s supposed stupidy(whether it’s real or not, he’s gotten quite annoying).
I mean really, YOU ALL EVERYBODY
Comment by South_park300 — May 13, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
Great points, i really hope you’re right! I love Charlie and i hope he’ll live!
Comment by Flave — May 13, 2007 @ 9:33 pm
I think it’s the ol’ double bluff. The Lost writers expect us to doubt Charlies death because of the very fact they have been foreshadowing it all season. What better way to throw the audience off then by killing him anyway. Also, Domanic has been very ambiguous about his future on the show in interviews. He seems just fine to be moving on.
Comment by Stev — May 13, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
Well if the ball was in my hands Id kill Charlie. I personally am surprised to hear you say Doc that to be LOST-like is to make great twists, when in fact to be LOST-like is to have good writing. And thats what I see for Charlie. Up until this point Charlie has been a pretty selfish person. He has started to care about Claire and Aaron but its still pretty much about him. So Sayid tells Charlie to go do whatever he has to do, and Des tells him he has to go, but he will die. At the very end Charlie is torn between his decision. But then he remembers Claire and Aaron, he remembers his poor father, he remembers how Liam turned it around due to his help but never gave him thanks, and he hears from Naomi that the song he was writing on island is in fact a huge hit off island by him. (All speculation of course) Knowing and remembering all this Charlie accepts his death. He sacrifices himself for the benefit of all the Losties, and dies a hero.
Comment by jalocke — May 13, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
“You’re gonna die Charlie.”
Perhaps Desmond putting off Charlie’s death leads to the moment when Charlie’s death actually means something. Or not.
We’ve seen Desmond constantly save Charlie, and we’ve seen his conflict over saving him grow. Perhaps in the end Desmond chooses to just let Charlie die to serve a greater good, and Charlie in some sense agrees. Maybe Charlie goes to his death willingly, with awareness.
Or not. I for one would like to see Charlie survive.
Comment by Lance — May 13, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
In my defense, Lost-like writing is good writing. But it is good, in my opinion, because they can keep you guessing without becoming boring, predictable or cliched.
Comment by DavidHume — May 13, 2007 @ 9:59 pm
Personally, I’m waiting for Charlie to bite it South Park style. Picture it now:
A battle between the 815ers and The Others rages; things get blown to hell from dynamite, shots are fired everywhere, Ben Vs Jack, betrayel from all sides as a blood bath ensues. The smoke settles and many of our heroes are dead, but Charlie is alive and relatively uninjured.
As the dust settles the writers give us a twist to hook us for next season and the screen goes black as the music starts to play and LOST flashes on the screen in the classic ending. Suddenly, the screen flashes back to the beach where we see a gigantic tree fall to earth, crushing Charlie into oblivion.
All that’s left to decide is who yells what at that point. Personally, I think Hurley will be the one to yell “OH my God! They killed Charlie” and baby Aaron says his first words: “You bastards!”
Who’s with me on this????
Comment by evangelicalpoet — May 13, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
charlie will die if not desmond visions will not have any credibility. But he will die in the finale, not this wed’s episode.
Comment by rocky — May 13, 2007 @ 11:08 pm
Oh he will die alright…It is pretty obvious from the sneak peek…CLAIRE GIVES HIM THE KISS OF DEATH! Claire finally forgives him and commits to him and as TV shows go, he now must die..His story has run its course…And Claire can hook up with someone else ie HURLEY!
My thoughts on why these guys cant DIE!
Jack - Hasnt found out Claire is his sister
Claire -Ditto
Kate - Still loves Jack
Sawyer - Is in love with Kate but she loves Jack
Sun - Is pregnant
Jin - doesnt know Sun thought the baby could be Bald guys
Hurley - Is the character with the closest tie to the numbers which hasnt
been explained yet
Locke - Is special
Sayid - Is the guy that will get them off the island
Juliet - Has to make out with jack beforeshe dies
Ben - Knows too many answers to die now
Comment by Liam Stephens — May 13, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
Well lately i have been reading how many people hate Jack this season. But how can u really? The Losties wouldnt have been what they are now if Jack wasnt there. he is great, and what he has done for the 815ers is too big to forget.
Sure he has been a little different this season, but this season only endured like 2 weeks of their timeline. Jack has something planned, and he has put on this act to not ruin it. maybe bringing in Juliet and showing her too much trust, is just his plan to use her.
We know he has a plan. without using Juliet he wouldnt have got this plan. Giving her his trust and protection, only gave him hers.
i would be devastated if Jack died.
On the other hand, Charlie does nothing really. all that happens is he and Claire fight, and she deems him not good enough to hang around Aaron and her. How much more of his flashback stories could be important anyway. Drugs and his band lead him to Australia, and we saw the story for both of those really. now unless his father is Jacob or an Other, he really has no importance. He isnt strong, smart and doesnt really do anything really.
This weeks episode will show us Charlie’s father, and teach us about his fear of water (possibly due to his father?), and he will die heroically saving and benefitting the losties, which will make him a fairly important bookmark in the Lost Storyline.
Comment by Safa — May 14, 2007 @ 12:19 am
I’m hoping that Desmond discovers that the whole “course correction” thing isn’t actually true and Charlie doesn’t necessarily have to die. Can we really trust the jewelry store lady?
Comment by Maurice Tift — May 14, 2007 @ 1:27 am
I’m pritty sure Charlie is a gonner. Although i think how he dies is going to be the twist, and what that leads into - not the fact that he actually dies.
Comment by Barry — May 14, 2007 @ 2:03 am
I think CLAIRE will die. That will be the most emotional thing that could happen to charlie (losing claire, being a daddy), but i agree, i can’t see his backstory going anywhere
Comment by pheadx — May 14, 2007 @ 2:29 am
Oh sod off, That death was in season 5, Its not a spoiler anymore. Oh by the way Darth vader was Luke’s dad.
Comment by Dominic — May 14, 2007 @ 2:40 am
It may be that Charlie will pull a Michael/Walt and disappear for a season, we may think he is dead just to reappear in Season 5. I think that Desmond was suppose to save Charlie the times that he has so far, so that Charlie can do what he needs to do this Wednesday.
Comment by 1miletogo — May 14, 2007 @ 3:34 am
Who the hell is Luke?
Comment by Yoda — May 14, 2007 @ 4:03 am
Eko`s charachter wasnt killed off because his story was told. The actor playing him wanted to quit the show so they had to kill him off. Everyone else that has died has made an apperance in either an island flashback or in one for somebody on the island…not eko
Comment by Damo — May 14, 2007 @ 4:07 am
I think maybe they made it so obvious so that the fans would come to the conclusion that Charlie can’t be killed — ‘it’s way too obvious’ they’d say — then BAM … he dies. The opposite of the oppposite of what you’re expecting… I think.
Comment by The Pearl — May 14, 2007 @ 4:40 am
Charlie will not die in the next episode, the producers and the teasers are setting up that he is. But he will die in the finale. Just when we think he is safe by connecting the underwater sonar cable without dying in “Greatest Hits”, he does something else sacraficial in the finale that does get him killed.
Comment by Kirk — May 14, 2007 @ 6:05 am
I heard stuff that said that the Charlie episode was originally scheduled to be the 16th episode of the season, if that was correct then, Charlie shouldn’t die until the finale.
Comment by orion — May 14, 2007 @ 6:09 am
what’s wrong with Definetely Maybe?
Comment by shaun — May 14, 2007 @ 7:13 am
I’m making a prediction right now/right here! I’m afraid Sawyer if going to be killed off! And if that happens . . . sad, sad, sad.
First of all, why was he walking about barefoot in the jungle? What did that mean? To me it was like a man in a coffin (no shoes), a condemned man walking to the gas chamber, or the Beatles famous album cover. If Dark can theorize about the pee-jars in JACOBS cabin, I can talk about Sawyer’s bare feet.
I have a strong feeling (But - I could be wrong) that they’re throwing us for a loop. We’re all thinking it’ll be Charlie and then BOOM! It’s Sawyer protecting stupid Kate (who’s pregnant with his baby).
Plus - Sawyer - not Charlie - is scheduled on the talk-short circuit? Uh-huh.
Comment by Goober — May 14, 2007 @ 7:55 am
“But, of course, I have no proof.”
Is that a wink-wink, nudge nudge statement? Or not.
At any rate, it was hinted that unless Desmond can do something drastic (sacrifice his own life, maybe?) Charlie’s gonna die.
Comment by Chris — May 14, 2007 @ 8:02 am
Spoiler Alert:
Charlie dies….
http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/
Go to down to “3 Deaths’s confirmed”
Comment by Indy — May 14, 2007 @ 8:21 am
I hope Charlie doesn’t die. Charlie being killed show two things for me:
- TPTB only kills characters that are hated on Lost boards (may I say mostly due to bad storytelling) or that are played by actors who want out.
- TPTB has no clear vision for the characters. They were created very roughly at the beginning and and written according to fan!!! reaction along with the story. I hate that characters are killed before a good sound story is told for them and getting their fair share of screen time. (Tailies??? Sawyerization in Season 3???)
Charlie is the best and natural humor-drama balanced character. He’s real. He’s not that hot. He’s funny. (Much funnier than so overlyused Sawyer nicknames). If the writers can go beyond writing stories for HOT characters, Charlie has great potential to be a main character.
Comment by Dan — May 14, 2007 @ 8:23 am
I always thought that the Charlie-Will-Die subplot was a red herring, meant to keep us on our edge. Like someone else said, it also helps illustrate Desmond’s powers.
Although I could be totally wrong, too, I think that it would be more interesting if Charlie DIDN’T die.
LOST seems to examine the whole existential concept of FREE WILL versus FATE. Are we all really on a predetermined path that will not deviate no matter what? Or, do we change things and circumstances along the way and write our own stories?
Some believe God has a “book” with each of our lives in it, and everything that happens to us follows that pre-planned-out journey.
Others believe life is random and all the things that happen to us are the result of decisions we make and actions we take.
So … is Charlie doomed to die? Or can he effect his life (and death) in a different way?
I think the LOST writers will illustrate free will by *not* having Charlie die, even though he was told he would.
Comment by Matt-DC — May 14, 2007 @ 8:28 am
What if…..
Charlie is doing something that he thinks is going to save the losties and just as he does WHAM he’s off the island floating around in the ocean and Naomi’s ship is there tring to find Naomi and saves him.
no charlie next year no dead charlie either.
Comment by Wes Johnson — May 14, 2007 @ 8:55 am
Um Indy….reread Doc’s post.
Comment by Muscle_Bob_Buff_Pants — May 14, 2007 @ 9:29 am
I go for it’s too obvious. Personally, I don’t think there is that much to his story that is interesting.
My prediction..The Hobbit lives!
Comment by RazzleDazzle — May 14, 2007 @ 9:42 am
Besides the fact that Charlie is my favorite charater think about this:
He’s escaped death so many times already:
- destined to die after being hit by the wayward steward trolley on board Flight 815.
- destined to die as a result of being crushed by a piece of rubble from the plane after the second explosion
- destined to die as a result of being hung by Ethan
- destined to die in the Hatch implosion
I think it would be cool if he where to somehow change his fate.
So maybe he’s not destined to die, he’s destined to cheat death.
Comment by DarthVibbert — May 14, 2007 @ 9:54 am
One more time he may have cheated death:
- When the cave, caved in in the season 1 episode “The Moth” he could have been crushed by the boulders but escaped unharmed with Jack trapped inside
Comment by DarthVibbert — May 14, 2007 @ 9:56 am
Wes…I really like your idea. What a twist that would be, eh? Kind of like how in Star Trek, in order for you to get to the mirror universe, you have to trade someone from yours…
Comment by Mark — May 14, 2007 @ 10:00 am
while desmond does have a magical gift, it wont cease to be important if, through great trials, charlie is able to change his fate. thats just a testament to charlies awesomeness.
very unlikely but i had a brief image of charlie survivinga very emotional, very close call in greatest hits, but then biting the bullet in a very undignified way in the finale.
think about it, thats the only thing left they could do to surprise us- not kill him…..but then when we let our guard down afterwards ‘bang’ hes gone
Comment by mandy — May 14, 2007 @ 10:30 am
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1nzw9ZmMAiM
CHECK THIS OUT EVERYONE!! HOLY CRAP!
I don’t know how real this is.
You decide.
Comment by sean — May 14, 2007 @ 10:43 am
I am sure it is actually going to be Sawyer. Sure, they could kill of Charlie too, but I think Sawyer is screwed.
His conflict has sort of ended. He killed the “Real” Sawyer which was his plan before. When “stories end” for Losties what trends to happen? They die.
Not to mention… who is booked to be on “The View” soon? Oh ya, Josh Holloway.
(I hope they are showing us this “softer” side of Sawyer to try to make him more dimensional… and not a goner!
I hope to god they don’t take away my eye candy. But it looks like it to me!
Comment by Megan B — May 14, 2007 @ 10:53 am
“It’s French! I’ve never been so glad to hear the French!”
im soo tired of Charlie, I’d kill off 10 Charlies to keep around say Ben or Tom..
He’s done, he needs to go.
Comment by jimyy — May 14, 2007 @ 11:16 am
The reason he is on the view is due to the fact that the triangle will be over after the finale, if the rumors come true that Kate dies.
Comment by Kirk — May 14, 2007 @ 11:16 am
As we all know, the finale will follow a number of storylines. I am still hung up on trying to figure out under what circumstances Penny will appear (in a Jackback) episode. This theory plunges headfirst into Cap10Tripps
Comment by gusteaux — May 14, 2007 @ 11:53 am
I agree 100% Doc. I think Dom is a really good actor, and I don’t think we’ve scratched the surface with him yet. I think we’d have a real interesting story line if Claire were to go, and Charlie would assume the position of Aaron’s father. Perhaps there was a much deeper story (and there should be) with the psychic.
I had an idea on this subject when reading a theory that the island is basically located about 14 years in the past. That is, DHARMA has a doorway in the present and created a doorway (14 years ago) that they sort of paused. With the hatch failsafe the doorway in the past (the paused one) has begun to move on regular time, so it will always be about 14 years (or whatever the actual number is) apart from DHARMA’s door in the present. Essentially it would seem that food drops and heliocopter chicks are actually coming from the present doorway. The 815ers were in the present timeline, but anomalies in the space/time continuum allow breaches sometimes (probably no more since the failsafe though). Anyway, my point on Charlie is what if he is really the father of Aaron? He gets her pregnant on the island, then Claire (through death like we see with Ecko being with Yemi as boys after he dies and Desmond’s loops into past or future consciousness) is brought back to a point in her life while now carrying Charlie’s baby. It would answer questions about the island, the psychic, and open a real interesting story line. I know it’s crazy, but man would that blow my mind…
Comment by cap10tripps — May 14, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
“If the writers can go beyond writing stories for HOT characters, Charlie has great potential to be a main character.”
-shrug- I think he’s hot… If that saves him it’ll be alright with me. Plus he’s just the only one who has the cute and possibly immature thing on the island… everyone else is hardcore serious. He’s just like, Okay, I can be serious, but not all the time. He’s the kid of the island (sorta) now that Walt is gone. I never found Hurley as funny because he tries to be serious but ends up being funny when that wasn’t his intention. Charlie is funny on purpose.
Comment by Brown — May 14, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
I think Charlie will die, but not until the finale. You’re right, it’s too predictable to kill him off now, but by narrowly escaping death in his episode we all think he’s safe, then in the finale he is the one who “sacrifices himself for his friends” (or whatever that promo says), thus validating Desmond’s gift, “fooling” us all, and filling one of the available slots we have for “who die’s before the end?”
Comment by qwerty88 — May 14, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
Fuck the finale! Several people have leaked the snake in the mail box, whether you want it or not here it is…
Everybody is getting ready to leave with the members of naomi’s team… some actually make it off the island.. and jack fucking KILLS them! He rigged one of the rescue boats to explode and it sinks the freighter. Then he has a flashback and you see that he killed Sarah, her boyfriend, and his father! He’s a nutjob! AND there is a control room for smokey, they can’t control it but they can watch what it reads from peoples minds….
Comment by fuckthefinale — May 14, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
I really don’t want him to die, but if anybody has to go (and it’s been made obvious 4 more do), i’d rather it be Charlie than someone I really, really like.
Comment by BenWorkman — May 14, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
Definitely Maybe was awesome!
Comment by Amanda — May 14, 2007 @ 7:35 pm
Dominic Monaghan(sp?) is on Jay Leno right now. I didn’t see that in TV guide. Very interesting… He hasn’t talked about Lost yet. Only about being “metro sexual”. So that’s what Evangaline Lilly is into…
Comment by steeeeve — May 14, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
uhh that theory is just ridiculous
he’s going to die — who cares? nobody will really miss him as the 2nd (to michael) most annoying character on lost.
besides, claire could do better than that anyway
Comment by roger — May 14, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
i am very upset for the “death of charlie”, when they gave him dialoge he was great
Comment by so_n2lost — May 14, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
i am very upset for the “death of charlie”, when they gave him dialoge he was great
Comment by so_n2lost — May 14, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
on the wednesday’s episode it’s a year since shannon’s death, maybe it will have something to do with her why charlie die’s and sayid doesn’t save him because sayid and shannon have history? your thoughts please!!
Comment by LostLegend — May 15, 2007 @ 2:09 am
Has anyone seen the CRAZY spoiler/foiler at dark ufo they’ve either just totally spoiled the next two episodes or gave us a huge foiler to think about!!!!!!
Comment by DMS — May 15, 2007 @ 6:32 am
It’s not a year in island time. It’s more like 25 days or so…
Comment by cap10tripps — May 15, 2007 @ 8:56 am
I wouldn’t be surprised if what was posted on DARKUFO was a foiler. At least, I am really hoping so. I accidentally read it. And really, it wasn’t that great anyway.
Comment by Megan B — May 15, 2007 @ 9:56 am
here’s some more times Charlie could have cheated death:
- Was destined to die if he didn’t stand up from his seat, which was destined to be a seat for a dead person, and run into the toilet
- Was destined to die when the rope bridge broke with him on it.
Comment by DarthVibbert — May 15, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
Not too sure about the whole seat thing - but the trolley would have crashed into him which would have led to his death from the crash. But you have some good points.
Doc, you have it dead-on with the “its too obvious” point, its just not what LOST is about
Comment by The Ghosts of the DHARMA Initiative — May 15, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
I don’t mind Charlie either. In fact, I also wish they
would play his character up more. But I wonder if they show had played out in 3 or 4 seasons,as opposed to 6, if we would feel different. (I guess we’d have no choice. haha) Maybe I’m alone in this….but I worry about how the show will turn out by dragging it out 3 more seasons. Will characters, that weren’t suposed to have more “story”, be strung along for the sake of ….the network? Just questions……
(please forgive me as I’ve not read any comments yet)
Comment by Sunshine — May 16, 2007 @ 10:00 am
Do you think there’s anything to the two “angels” who came in just as charlie exclaimed, “I’m alive!” Hmmm… “Charlie’s Angels”… Kinda looked like Drew Barrymore, didn’t it?
Comment by jason — May 17, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
Hes so stupid, swim out the window
Comment by Ummm — May 23, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
I can’t believe charlie died
Comment by Jon — May 23, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
…Guess you were wrong after all! ~.^
Comment by Alyson — May 23, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
I seriously can’t believe that. I didn’t want it to be true. I agree with the person who said he should’ve swam out the window, haha.
R.I.P. Charlie
“You all, everybody!”
Comment by Megan — May 23, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
Well, after seeing Charlie die today it only further shows me what low self-esteem he has. If he was a fighter rather than a martyr he would have closed the door behind him when Cyclops grinned from behind the window. His low self-esteem blinded him from fighting for his life in order to get a little “sexy-time” with Claire….. and who wouldn’t want a little “sexy-time” with her?
Comment by Robert — May 23, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
You’re dumb. Charlie’s dead.
Comment by Jonas — May 23, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
You’re dumb. Charlie’s dead.
Comment by Jonas — May 23, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
i cant believe he died he could have just went out the dooor to desmond and closed it from there????
but nooooo he had to lock it when he could have easily stayed alive
Comment by Fenix — May 23, 2007 @ 11:21 pm
Yes, Charlie could have saved himself, but he locked himself in because that was the premonition. He didn’t want to take any chance of changing Desmond’s vision of Claire’s helicopter trip off the island. Of course he could have tried to save himself, but he wanted Desmond’s premonition to go exactly how it was supposed to.
Comment by Jason — May 24, 2007 @ 12:31 am
As for the helicopter….when they show up next season, you know they’re going to take the women and children first, right?
Comment by doug — May 24, 2007 @ 8:42 am
I think next season Claire will be mad at Desmond, because if Desmond never told him he was supposed to die he never would have. I think thats how she’ll see it. But I dont think Charlie is alive. That would be great, as hes my favourite character, I just dont see it happening.
Comment by jon — May 24, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
I hope Charlie was able to get out of the porthole, either by himself or someone grabbing him… but not sure that’s likly. But it could be possible, perhaps the producers know his death might damage ratings in future seasons, so leaving open a reason to have him still alive.
Comment by Long live Charlie — May 25, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Yup Charlie is dead, in exactly the same way that Locke was dead and Sayid et al were shot on the beach and … oh, you get the idea.
My prediction. A shot of someone’s arm reaching through the porthole to fish him out. Presumably someone on the beach. Afterall, we had that nice shot of Hurley looking speculatively at the waves.
Comment by Angostura — May 29, 2007 @ 2:42 am