Major Prediction Concerning Ausiello’s Morbid Info
Okay. I think there is enough information out there to just about call this, and some one you will not doubt argue that it’s just not possible. But give it a read through:
So Ausiello claims five more deaths in the finale. There is a well distributed rumor of a Major character death who is not Charlie. Now news comes out that Matthew Fox is playing Racer X in ‘Speed Racer’. So let’s do the math:
Jack & Locke Epic Struggle
Unprecedented Third Jack Flashback
Mathew fox in Berlin for 45 days Starting June 5th
LOST Season Four Starting Production around August
Hmmm…. Foxy is cutting it pretty close for a return, depending on what ABC has planned for a start of production for season four, and what does the commitment usually look like for an actor as far as pickups and the like go? (I don’t know, I’m really asking!)
I gotta say, it looks like the long rumored Jack death is going to happen.
Not sure I understand this Doc. June 5th and August are two months apart. Seems like there would be enough time even if they started August 1.
Comment by bdub — April 19, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Very nice job on the multiple efforts today though
Comment by bdub — April 19, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
I think Jack will turn out to be Jacob…but his role as Jacob will be from a future time…perhaps.
There’s a report that the parachutist is going to divulge disturbing information about Flight 815 next week.
My thought…she will tell everyone that Flight 815 never crashed. In fact, she will know about people on the island and their lives as they continued in the “real” timeline. My theory is this…and the proof is in the emergence of a SECOND Desmond and Penny photo. When Desmond accidentally crashed Flight 815, he didn’t necessarily crash the “Real” 815. By not pressing the button on time, Desmond opened up a time rift, thus splitting flight 815 into TWO timelines…one finished its journey, the other crashed on the island. The losties are indeed the passengers from the plane, but they are existing in a time line that shouldn’t exist. I believe it’s Desmond’s purpose to fix this time rift…once he does, the show will end with us back on the plane…with it finally reaching Los Angeles. The parachutist has a copy of the photo…because I believe that the Desmond in the OTHER timeline gave it to her to take to Desmond in the losties timeline….perhaps…
Thoughts?
Comment by johanngut — April 19, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
What about the news reports of the missing plane Mikhail was observing in the Flame station?
Comment by TabulaRasa — April 19, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
No way. Jack may turn out to be Jacob, but ABC would turn out to be blundering idiots to allow the producers of LOST to kill off the show’s main hero. Holloway can not replace Fox and isn’t designed to. It does seem to me that Jack is going to take a new path however and that a Jack vs. Sawyer theme will be a big part of Season 4.
Comment by Gary green — April 19, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Jack is the main hero? I think this last episode showed us the main hero of lost.
Comment by TabulaRasa — April 19, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
i think it’s jack’s “bad twin” that will die in the finale, but, we won’t figure out the twin part till next season
Comment by dirtydingusmcgee — April 19, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
The first episode of season four does not start until January. So an August starting date sounds a bit early for a show that was only just the other day writing season 3’s last episodes. The are generally only a few weeks ahead of the viewers, in terms of production schedule. Four months is quite a bit longer. I’m not so sure August is the correct start of production.
Comment by the jungleman — April 19, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Yep. I totally agree with Gary. Jack is the protagonist, the hero of the show. No way he’s getting killed off at this point with plenty still left to go.
And as far as him shooting that movie starting June 5…If it takes 45 days, he’ll have plenty of time to get back to the set of Lost, unless there is some sort of “lost time” between June 5 and August. (I couldn’t resist.)
Comment by Jeff — April 19, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
I am going to have to agree with bdub here somewhat. Basing your assumption on Jack dying in the season finale on a movie role and the time frame between the shootings of both is a little whacky, but I do hope for the death of jack. Im tired of him and his flashbacks. Three in a season? Thats just a little much
Comment by gimpy — April 19, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
I think Mikhail was viewing reports of the plane going down in the timeline they exist in. However, they can see BOTH timelines. This is how they know so much about everyone…perhaps.
Comment by johanngut — April 19, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Regarding the photograph, johanngut; I believe we’ve seen it now in three different places. Desmond’s copy, Penny’s copy that is framed on her nightstand table, and now the parachutist’s copy. I agree with you regarding parallel timelines, but am not sure how the photos play into the grand scheme.
Comment by danielson — April 19, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
Yeah. From what I hear, the Wachowskis are shooting Speed Racer nearly all in green screen, so the shoot should be decently short and sweet!
Comment by mike — April 19, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
Hey Doc, how confident do you feel that Charlie is going to live? That’s good news to me. I hoped it, but was waiting for real confirmation. Can you confirm it?
Comment by pj — April 19, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
Who says Jack’s going to appear in the first episode of season 4?
Comment by Delirium — April 19, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
I think Jack may die, but not because of his movie schedule. Remember, in the original pilot Jack was to die right away. His character can’t be the central drive of the Lost story if they were going to kill him earlier.
Comment by whoyoub — April 19, 2007 @ 5:58 pm
I agree that Jack isn’t going to die because many of the losties have done movies and Jack is the protagonist and always has been… look for the real Sawyer to die, I still think Charlie will die and Ausilleo never specified who would die just that there was going to be 5 more deaths so this could leave us with anyone.
Comment by DMS — April 19, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
A big joke could have been that charlie’s “death” in catch-22 could have counted as one othe these supposed 5 deaths.
Comment by delirium — April 19, 2007 @ 6:05 pm
how is a third jack-centric episode “unprecedented”?
He had three episodes in season one with: White Rabit (episode 5), All the best cowboys have daddy issues (episode 11), and Do No Harm (episode 20). Plus isnt Locke going to be having a third flashback before jack with The brig coming up in a few weeks? With both The Man From Tallahassee and Futher Instructions being locke-centric episodes too. Should we expect Locke to be dying in the brig since he is getting an “unprecedented” third flashback, and one fairly quickly after his last one…
Evangeline lilly recently signed on to do a movie this summer too. I guess that means she’s a gonner as well.
Comment by Matt — April 19, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
Jack won’t die because JACK IS THE SHOWS VILLIAN. I mean face it…the writers of LOST are way to creative and cutting edge to have such a straight edge all american guy who saves EVERYONES life be a hero. They’ve been setting everyone up. He is Jacob…all of his flashbacks have been fake because maybe he has been hipnotized to believe otherwise…which would mean that perhaps all the people in jacks flashbacks that we’ve seen might also be Others!… His OTHER roots are coming back to him, slowly. Locke is going to reveal that fact. REMEMBER WHEN BEN ASKED JACK: “Don’t you find it odd that Juliet bears a striking resemblance to your wife?” Probably because she is…and his memory is just a bit skewed…but its coming back…and he’ll be an OTHER by seasons end.
Comment by Chris — April 19, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
I just want to point out something: the third Jack flashback is NOT unprecedented. He had three flashbacks in Season 1.
1×05 - “White Rabbit” (Jack sees his dad on the island, flashbacks to his death in Australia)
1×11 - “All the Best Cowboys…” (pursues kidnapped Claire, rats out his dad in flashbacks)
1×18 - “Do No Harm” (tries to save Boone and remembers his wedding)
Comment by Brandon — April 19, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
Jack will die…
Nothing seems to be more obvious to me,it`s exactly the kind of storytelling that grills my brain and gives me a stupid smile on my face….Just Lost..
Comment by Ohm — April 19, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
Doc: I just went back and read Ask Ausiello from Wednesday again. He did not say “5 deaths in the finale.” He said “5 deaths in MAY.” I would speculate that four of them are: Roger Workman, Gerald DeGroot, Anthony Cooper and Charlie Pace (in that order). I think everyone on the island except Locke and Hurley are candidates for number five.
Comment by gusteaux — April 19, 2007 @ 7:29 pm
Prediction Time, who are the final 5 (why does that sound familiar?):
1. Anthony Cooper (”Finish it” scene is finish reading the letter)
2. Charlie
3. Marvin Candle
4. Sun
5. Naomi
Comment by TabulaRasa — April 19, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
In addition to the 2 months between June and August, I’d be willing to bet that they have more time than that. The head of ABC has all but confirmed that the show will run “24″ style next year, meaning they’ll push the start date back to January, most likely.
You think, it takes 8 weeks from an episodes shooting to its finished product and you can pack a lot of episodes in from September to December,as far as production goes.
Comment by El Prez — April 19, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Well Tabula, if they start hearing All Along the Watchtower, I’d say you’re right…..
Comment by lockefan — April 19, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Tabula - GOOD CALL on “Finish it!” being in reference to Sawyer reading Sawyer’s letter!
Comment by Jeff — April 19, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Who says Jack has to die to leave the show? Mabey he “goes away” for a while and comes back at a later time.
Comment by Stev — April 19, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
Also, isn’t it odd that Jack comes too so far away from the wreckage of the plane in the first scene of season one? If their is some sort of time loop involved, mabey that was a clue? Mabey he has died multiple times, only to start the sequence of events over and over again from the moment of the crash. He looked allot like Desmond and Locke when they woke up in the middle of the jungle after the hatch explosion.
I definetly think Jack’s going away for a while.
Comment by Stev — April 19, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
Matthew Fox in episodes of Lost = female demographic. I don’t think the network is going to be thrilled about killing the “face” of a show that is already suffering from audience shrinkage.
The producers were perfectly willing to shoot around Fox’s We Are Marshall schedule. Next season they have even more latitude to do so with the season premiere in January.
Comment by sandleford — April 19, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Look like Hurley kind of bites it in the promo for the rest of the season.
Comment by D — April 19, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
I’m pretty sure (on a scale of 1-10, it’s an
that Jack will be revealed to be a Cylon.
Comment by Ben — April 20, 2007 @ 3:54 am
Johanngut, have you been watching Donnie Darko? I’d like to think that CC and DL wouldn’t bite the plane crash time loop from Richard Kelly, but it’s a good story. At the risk of becoming the resident theory skeptic, I’m not sure I buy it, though, if only because it’s predicated on evidence mostly outside the show.
Comment by Tim J. — April 20, 2007 @ 4:59 am
But if Jack or Desmond is the Living Receiver, surrounded by the Manipulated Dead, and the whole Island experience is part of the Tangent Universe, what’s the Artifact? The entire plane, instead of just a jet engine?
Comment by Tim J. — April 20, 2007 @ 5:53 am
I think the producers are fooling with our minds about the “deaths”.
Remember that they are casting “Roger Workman” — we already know he is dead in the VW Van.
So there’s one death we’ll see.
The deaths they are talking about could be secondary characters in the upcoming flashbacks. For example: Is Marvin Candle alive now? He could die in a flashback.
That’s two deaths.
Also, I think Rousseau’s character has peaked. It’s possible the writers will wrap-up the “search-for-my-daughter-Alex” subplot. So, I think Rousseau’s days are numbered.
Three deaths.
Finally … Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet). Was she booked for one season? Or did she sign a multi-year contract? If she’s like Michelle Rodriguez or the guy who played Ecko, then it’s possible Juliet’s story may be wrapped up in the next few episodes as well.
Four deaths.
As for Charlie …. I’d hate to see him go. I wonder if the writers have been playing with us regarding this whole Desmond-Sees-Charlie-Die thing? Setting us up to expect his death, then surprising us with someone elses death?
Comment by Matt — April 20, 2007 @ 6:26 am
Couldn’t they have just made a copy of the photo? You can go to any wal-mart and do that for like a buck.
Comment by mafafu — April 20, 2007 @ 6:43 am
I dont think Danielle will die because the producers of lost have said that we will find out about how Danielle got to the island but this will happen next season. I dont think they would kill Jack off he is to much of an important character and in my opinion I think either Jack or his father is going to end up being Jacob.
My predictions are
#1st death will be the real Sawyer by the hands of Sawyer but with the help of Locke
#2nd death will be Charlie and I dont know how he is going to die but my guess is he is a big reason why there is such a giant fight between the others and the losties(Charlies death will start it).
#3 There could be a couple just random deaths during the battle which could be unknown losties or unknown others mabye Carl comes back just in time to die.
#4 Im saying with certainty that Naomi and Juliet wont die ! 100% im so sure neither of them will die. Juliet is to good of an actress to die and they said Naomi will stay until the final episode
#5 The last death will be dependent on who attacks Jin because we all know he has some anger issues and if you attck him your definitly in for it. Either that or Sayid where has he been latly but i think he will be important later on but you never know they might kill him off.
Comment by DMS — April 20, 2007 @ 6:46 am
johanngut — could happen — would be kind of a let down, akin to “it’s all just a dream” thing. Then again, I’m not sure any conclusion at this points sounds better than what you’ve proposed. So, good work. Please take the rest of the day off
Comment by Racer X — April 20, 2007 @ 7:05 am
I think the statue… or monuments are to JACOB.
Or it could be Lockes dad.
Comment by tom — April 20, 2007 @ 9:48 am
Johanngut, great post. I think the second picture of Des and Pen has been overlooked. There should not be two pictures in existence. Your theory here is very plausible. I’ve been thinking on the slower time theories that El Prez and I have gone back and forth on. Perhaps there is no time (ie time stands still on the island). This would certainly fit into the theory that Des must shore up the tangent universe he’d created…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 20, 2007 @ 10:22 am
I predicted Jack would die at mid season due to his movie career taking off. I was way off base.
I won’t bite on the Jack will die theory again.
Honestly, why would Matt Fox leave Lost for a movie like Speed Racer? If he leaves it will be for a huge role in a great movie.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Jack get shot in the cliff hanger, and we don’t pick him back up until a few episodes into season 4.
Comment by Blackrockbob — April 20, 2007 @ 11:05 am
All/most of the deaths will occur during the Ben-centric episode. The storyline goes way back into his childhood. So we will see 3 decades of key pre-815 characters meet their demise.
Comment by Other 216 — April 20, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Might it be that Jack gets “killed” only to be resesitated in the season opener?
Comment by Burger — April 20, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
jack is the villan… if what was said about the dharma/others rolls, scientist=unpure… workers=worthy
factor in “man of faith, man of science” and you get
jack=unpure locke=worthy — locke is the hero of this show…
jack is gonna die.. die jack die… muahhahahahah
sorry but i really don’t like his smug attitude anymore
Comment by justaslostasyou — April 20, 2007 @ 1:37 pm
whats with all this ” unprecedented third jack flashback ” noise
3.19 The Brig, will be Locke’s third flashback this season too
Further Instructions and The Man from Tallahasse
if you’re basing jacks death in anyway on the third flashback, throw locke right up there too.
Comment by failingenglish — April 20, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
Actually this seems pretty plausible though it would be sad to see him die.
Comment by Lawliet — April 21, 2007 @ 3:02 am
could one of the deaths not be paulo??
Isnt he supposed rise from the grave and then get shot to the head, or was that somebody taking the piss??
Comment by rob — April 21, 2007 @ 4:08 am
Even if he dies, there is no way we won’t see him again somehow. In the future, past, as Jacob, or sg.
Comment by g — April 21, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Kinda wonder if it Locke that dies? Though I believe that would be bad since the best episodes are locke Centric. Just got to wonder with terry O quinn age how many season of lost he can do?
Comment by DC — April 22, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
he’s only 50 odd
Comment by darren locke — April 23, 2007 @ 8:24 am
Jack & Locke Epic Struggle
Unprecedented Third Jack Flashback
Mathew fox in Berlin for 45 days Starting June 5th
Lost Season Four Starting Production around August
I would like to point out that Jack isn’t the only one with 3 flashbacks this scenes:
Further Instructions
Man from Tallahasee
The Brig
Locke has three flashbacks as well…
Comment by Anon — April 23, 2007 @ 9:37 pm