Exclusive! A Second Look at Catch-22/D.O.C Caps Reveal the ‘Unlikely Nemesis’, and more!
Stop Reading if you consider previews spoilers! Now, in the Catch-22 preview we saw someone attacking Jin. I can prove who it was! This person is no doubt also the ‘Unlikely Nemesis’ from ABC’s official description of D.O.C. Also, a new look at the vault confirms that someone we know very well was with Juliet! Ready? Jump on through!
Ladies and Gentlemen… Patchy is BACK! Yes, the person trying to skewer Jin is none other than everybody’s favorite eye-patch guy! I’m pretty psyched because I was intrigued by patchy from the beginning, and Andrew Divoff is a phenomenal actor. Of course, I was hoping for Kelvin Inman, and to be fair… that is still possible! One thing is for certain, whoever it is that is attacking Jin is wearing a Dharma jumpsuit. Note the cuffs.
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UPDATE! Major props to Bobbydee who ALSO thought it was Sun standing with Juliet in this scene! That makes Bobbydee first, and me second!
wow, awesome detective work doc!
Comment by johobi — April 13, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
It’s definitely Patchy, but the press release about the “unlikely nemesis” was for D.O.C, not Catch-22. Andrew Divoff is not credited for Catch-22 but IS credited for D.O.C. so I’m guessing that both of those scenes above are from episode 18, not 17.
Comment by dwight — April 13, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
thanks for confirming a suspicion i voiced a week ago.
unlikely nemesis = patchy.
i rule.
Comment by goldenmalicous — April 13, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
I have been saying since Par Avion to my friends that Mikhail was still alive. He was obviously still breathing after his run in with the fence. That would have been too much of a mistake for this show to make I believe. Point is, that would explain why he was still breathing. Kate, Locke and Sayid did not even check his pulse but assumed he was dead. My guess is that he knew the fence would incapacitate or injure him but not kill him. Gave him an oppurtunity to escape. The other less likely option is that he faked his injury because Juliet reveals later on (in Left Behind) that the fences were off. Seems like the Monster could have just gone over the fence like Kate , etc did. But what if they were able to climb over it because it wasn’t even on. Just a thought, but in the end they were owned by Mikhail.
Comment by Nolan — April 13, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
I agree with Nolan. That the fence was off and that was why they could climb over. Good work!
Comment by AR — April 13, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
I don’t see any way that it could have been off. When he’s thrown in, blood comes out of his ears. I can’t see how he would fake that.
Comment by trahald10 — April 13, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
i think kate knew that patchy wasn’t dead… she kind of inspected him with a funny look on her face. also, i don’t think john locke is the killing kind. to me, it was a bit out of character for him to shove patchy into the fence like that with the expectation of death. i’ve always suspected he knew the fence wouldn’t kill patchy.
Comment by mati — April 13, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
I hope it is not Patchy. I was promised by TPTB that Dead is Dead , No retuning from the grave. Locke said he killed him . I will be ok if it is a flashback. But other than that I will be bummed
Comment by outattheplate — April 13, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
How on earth do you fake blood coming out of your ears and foam coming out of your mouth?
Comment by Ash — April 13, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
The answer is simple. My duplicate theory is correct and I asked the wrong question when I asked if ‘twins’ would be of importance. Beware the evil 815′rs!
Comment by docarzt — April 13, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
thats some good work
only i did point all of this out in the trailer comments page….(well apart from the fact that patchy was the attacker)
Comment by Bobbydee — April 13, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
THEORY!
When Desmond traveled into the past and acted crazy with Charlie, Charlie commented “this is why we don’t do drugs”.
What if…seeing Desmond be crazy prompts Charlie to NOT become a drug addict, changing history, resulting in him never needing to go to Australia etc. Therefore, there are TWO Charlys, one out there in the world and another on the island. The purple sky freakyness was the result of history changing and the time line being screwed up. And also explains why island Charlie must die.
Comment by Ian — April 13, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
the fence was on when locke pushed him. it is clear because it makes that loud noise, etc.
however, i do agree, it probably didn’t kill him. locke may or may not have known this, but it seems juliet indicates the reason for the fence is for smokey….so, the side effect might be to keep people out, but it is set to a configuration that disables, but doesn’t kill.
it’s set on stun….maybe locke new this. i still think there was some interaction/funny looks between locke and mikhail during the “the jon locke i know” interaction…and the “thank you”…odd…maybe mikhail is a loner like locke, and they bonded somehow, with mikhail being the outcast of the “others”….
be *very* cool if mikhail turns out to be a good guy, havoc creating partner of locke….
Comment by foo — April 13, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Well we did see Claire bleed from her mouth, or was it her nose. Either way, Ben said her implant was set to go off. I was thinking how Patchy may of had a simular implant which he triggered himself. It also helps out my therory that the fence and the smoke monster are fake, just another part of the mouse trap.
Comment by Chuck_Farley — April 13, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
oops! Didn’t mean to dupe you Bobbydee! Props to bobbydee! The other most eagle eyed LOST fan in the universe!
Comment by docarzt — April 13, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
So are The Others in a plot to do more of Juliet’s research on Sun?
Comment by karmachu — April 13, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
I think of all the powers the Others seem to posses, the ability to squirt pints of blood out of their ears several feet and not die is the most impressive. I’m not sure how they perfected this ultimate “possum” technique, or why, but it’s brilliant. Just think if an IRS man came to your house looking for taxes and you pulled off that move. When he left, you could just get up and get on with your non-tax paying life. He’s not coming back, he thinks your dead!
Comment by Higdon — April 13, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
So are The Others in a plot to do more of Juliet’s research on Sun?
Comment by karmachu — April 13, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
I’m thinking the woman helping Juliet push the vault door open looks more like the asian tattooist girl that Jack shacked up with.
Comment by KarynD — April 13, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
Why would anyone make a fence that is so obvious as how to defeat it? All of the usual time tested fence materials were apparently thrown aside for this “invisible-dog-fence” technology, which is quickly defeated by the kind of “mensa alumni” who havent the sense to take one of the three boats that have been provided and get the hell off the island. what the hell? first boat and im outta there! this pack of howler monkeys with opposable thumbs seems to want the love boat to pick them up.
Whats the fence for? to keep out aardvarks? Would chain link and barbed wire have done the same thing and been slightly more difficult to defeat? Might it have been nice to put up a sign saying “SONIC FENCE- AVOID CONTACT” but no, wouldnt want to be that clear, now would we.
This super-dooper high tech fence was defeated by same people who havent once in 90 days sat around the campfire and asked themselves if anyone can think of a single case in history where an airplane disassembles in mid air and 40+ passengers manage to be no worse for wear than the average southest airlines passenger landing at john wayne airport.
This is the same sort of people who havent got the common sense to ask danielle ” you know for someone whos supposedly been here for 16 years, you sure dont know where anything is or even who anyone is on this island do you? and by the way you friggin frog genius who for some reason has a czech accent, your kid that you say you miss everyday is right over there, now go get her and stop pointing that rifle at me, ok?”.
The same sort of people who watch a giant pallet full of food fall from the sky and not one of them bother to say “gosh, this sort of thing happens every day doesnt it?”.
The same sort who havent once managed to notice that not a single satellite has flown overhead or a single jet contrail has shown up in the sky and said outloud to no one in particular ‘well thats interesting, now isnt it?”.
They’ve been there for how many months and no one has bothered to just walk around the island on the beach side even once? ” Hey look everyone, theres a club med about 5 clicks to the east and its pina collada night and theres a wet tshirt contest and everything, lets go!”
A Submarine? ohfergodssakes, dont get me started. and not just any war surplus submarine, nooooooooo! even something that maybe fell off the deck of the calypso, but a fricken goofy sci-fi submarine that looks like a prop from ultraman.
What is this place, an unused part of tommorowland? If they walk a little further up the beach, will the line for the Matterhorn bobsleds show up? Is that where all the kids went to? off the the character breakfast with mickey and goofy? after all it is an ABC show, so cross branding is a possibility.
The others? look, let’s say I’m living on a beach with 40 other folks who havent had a bath or a toothbrush in three months. Living outside, bugs, primitive toilet facilities, waking with the sunrise, it gets kinda old after the first weekend. Suddenly, I find out that a whole condo complex has become vacant in the middle of the island, complete with running water and filled refrigerators and a swing set just to sweeten the deal. Can you say “moving day”!
But no, our hapless folks stay on the beach without so much as raiding a refrigerator or rummaging through the others cd collections for a game of ‘got it-got it-need it’. and another thing, you find me any woman who hasnt had a shampoo in 3 months and is told “listen, theres a hot shower and a tub right over there with all the soap and shampoo you need” and there isnt a ’smokey’ in the world that will stop her from getting over to clean up.
You know why mikhail and bea were so interested in dying? Because its the only way out of this nonsense! Even the characters are crying out “kill me!” to end this nightmare!
Its like a universe created by people that work at the dmv. Its lots of long tedious lines that lead nowhere and all you get is a stack of nonsense paperwork.
Comment by frank martin — April 13, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
riiight
Comment by shaun — April 13, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
Th parachutist in the upcoming ep is a black woman. Could her last name be……Gale? Sans “the real Henry Gale”?
Comment by Stev — April 13, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
what if it’s not Mikhail but instead the real Rodger? he wore a suit too, maybe whoever was driving the van stole a dharma suit and was on a kamikaze escape mission? what if during this attempted escape the island presented this person with his tragic fate?
Comment by LT — April 13, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Wow! Why anyone who apparently hates the show as much as Frank does would come to a site like this and take so much time to make such a rant is beyond me. No show is perfect, but Lost is one of the most innovative, interesting ones on the air today. I wish people who don’t appreciate shows like Lost would stop trying to ruin it for people who do. Thanks for your research and hard work docartz.
Comment by deb — April 13, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
Okay, I’m probably going to get shot down like an innocent on the streets of LA, but BRAVO Frank Martin!
Okay, I know… a bit whiney, and bit “if you hate LOST why are you watching it/posting on this website” but let’s go ahead and give credit where credit is in fact due.
Very nice FM, very creative.
Comment by evangelical poet — April 13, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
Frank went through all that trouble so he get could get a little free linkage. Entertaining rant remains. Link to blog you hoped to pimp, is removed.
Comment by DocArzt — April 13, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
What if the unlikely nemisis is RADZINSKY?
Comment by DesmondHume — April 13, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
A little late on the news about Mikail coming back. Spoilerfix has had him listed as a guest for D.O.C. for quite a while already.
Comment by Rain — April 13, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
i like the show, it just drives me crazy…
its not a show about lawyers in love, its not about 2 cops where one is by the book and the other is a litle bit crazy, but dang you know, well it just drives me a little crazy sometimes. the fence did me in.
i know, i went a little too far, i wrote a paragraph and before you know it blam! im the mayor of crazytown.
Comment by frank martin — April 13, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
The fence is for Smokey. Smokey obviously cannot get past it…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 13, 2007 @ 7:46 pm
“The fence is for Smokey. Smokey obviously cannot get past it…”
Posted by: cap10tripps | April 13, 2007 7:46 PM
Brilliant insight as usual.
Comment by T — April 13, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Rain we knew Mikhail would be back but people were confused as to whether it would be on island or in flashback. Now the only confusion is whether Mikhail is really alive or if thats smokey.
Comment by Muscle_Bob_Buff_Pants — April 13, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
T, I was answering a question by Frank who was wondering why it was so easy for Kate to get by the fence. How old are you man? You are constantly on here posting something negative. Are you older and secretly wish you had never married the person you ended up with, or are you younger and like to prank the local businesses with your buddies for kicks? Just wondering, because you are f@#*ing annoying.
Comment by cap10tripps — April 13, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
I was just wondering about a couple of comments made by a few characters.Some one said Ben is the boss and then was corrected he was not in charge. HE is a great man, better than Ben.So that got me thinking,WHO?
Who would be the most unlikely character to fill those boots? My guess?? None other than Hurley. Who else has had more dealings with all the other characters than him.He seems to be the one who always comes up with new ways of getting everyones minds off their predicament? AND his reaction when he found out who killed his new(?) girlfriend?None!
One more note. How much did he win again? And when?
Comment by hbtech — April 13, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
I have 2 questions:
1. Why no one of the losties ask about where the hell do the others have/know their personal information?
2. If it’strue that pregonts died… how’s that danielle is still alive if she has alex?
Comment by Victoria — April 14, 2007 @ 3:13 am
errrr… this maybe completely wrong but bare with me… the recent episode claire started bleeding because of her implant… could that not have been the same for patchy because he was bleeding then when the losties went off someone came to save him… just a theory…
Comment by Anish — April 14, 2007 @ 4:53 am
Wow, Victoria, I never thought about danielle. She got pregnant via ben, so she must of been on the island.
Comment by rickyduck — April 14, 2007 @ 5:35 am
Victoria, 1. Many have asked (Jack to Tom), some know of the flame station, and of course there are always conversations we are not in on (the assumption that these things go on to characters off camera). 2. The problem with the pregos happens at conception. I personally believe it has something to do with time moving slower on the island (70 year old womb on a 26 year old woman)…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 14, 2007 @ 8:01 am
Did Ben not say he was born on the island when he talked to John in his house?
Comment by hbtech — April 14, 2007 @ 9:34 am
hbtech, Ben did say he was born on the island, and his mother is dead (possibly during Ben’s birth?). Plus they have never said anything about the babies dying…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 14, 2007 @ 9:58 am
Danielle did not get pregnant via Ben. Danielle had Alex when she crashed on the island, and the Others took Alex from her. Ben “adopted” Alex and has raised her as his daughter. He told her that her mother was dead. But Ben is not Alex’s biological father.
Comment by daphne — April 14, 2007 @ 11:10 am
Hey. Is the anyone here who could tell me when season 3 comes out on dvd as i have not seen any episodes so far an am getting v. Impatient with waiting 4 the dvd release. Thanxs xx
Comment by Willow — April 14, 2007 @ 11:42 am
yep yep, I know that danielle got in the island already pregont (of corse Ben has nothing to do with that) but… she gave birth alex there on the island… and she looks alive… so why juliet says that “all” pregonts died on there?
Comment by Victoria — April 14, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
was it in the most recent episode that juliet opened the vault door?
Comment by claire — April 14, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
Victoria, if the problem is at conception, Danielle lives because Alex was concieved off the island. If the problem has to do with 70 year old 26 year olds (time moving slower on the island), then it’s because Danielle had just landed on the island and was her natural earthly age…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 14, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
Victoria -
Because Juliette was lying. She was lying about how Claire got sick, she was lying about her cure.
Juliette knows quite well that issue is if a mother conceives while on the island, it is a sure death sentence. The answer to the equation is to created new life from conception on the island.
I bet that this issue will be addressed in the upcoming Jin/Sun episode. We shall wait.
Doc, back on the subject of this thread. Good catch. Now, whose boots are those next to Patchy? I need to re-watch the episode at the Medical Station, but there was door that they couldn’t get into, wasn’t threre?
Comment by TabulaRasa — April 14, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
are Locke’s boots, he was keepping an eye on Mihail before to go to play computer’s chess again.
Comment by Victoria — April 15, 2007 @ 2:32 am
Did I dream this or Am I losing my mind with this show ….didn’t Juliet once told Jack that she was married to Ben??? and then we saw her doihg the horizontal lambada with Goodwin??
Comment by Harold — April 15, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Any speculation about where this heavy vault door is located?
I am dying know where it’s located.
Turandot
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Comment by Turandot — April 16, 2007 @ 8:24 am
The fence was on. As said before, you couldn’t fake the blood and foam. We saw all of the Others leave, but not where they left too…so, when they left they turned off the fence, Juliet saw smokey roaming around the camp-site and knew smokey got in so the fence must be off. Then she proceeded to reactivate the fence.
Comment by Jeff — April 16, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
Juliet knew the fence was off as she walked out through it. She only pretended to be gassed etc.
Comment by Tim — April 17, 2007 @ 3:59 am
Juliet never said she was married to Ben. There has been speculation among some Losties that the two had a relationship, but that was just speculation and rumor.
Comment by Jim — April 17, 2007 @ 4:29 am
Hey Doc, you’ve speculated on a confused Kelvin wondering the island. He wore the DHARMA suit. I’m not at home, but if someone could check what he was wearing during the struggle with Des that would be awesome. If he’s wearing the suit, he would be a possibility here too…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 17, 2007 @ 6:47 am
Props to bdub for bringing this up in another post, but it’s possible that Radzinski’s alive. All we have to go on here is Kelvin’s word. The mysterious DHARMA arm in this spoiler pic could be Radzinski. He seems to have a keen knowledge of the goings on of DHARMA and the island, so he would be a great addition to the story…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 17, 2007 @ 9:05 am
One more thing about Smokey and the crash of 815, there was plenty of smoke surrounding the plane. But as the plane went down, the smoke remained mixed in with the main cabin contrail. The smoke didn’t make any sudden movements, it acted as you would expect smoke from a fire to act.
Now, this doesn’t mean that Smokey didn’t have something to do with it, but there is confirmation that the plane had smoke around it as it broke apart. The views of the plane coming down from the Other’s perspective doesn’t seem to support the “Smokey in the air” theory
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