Lost Spoilers - Flash Backs be Damned!
Okay… I won’t use superlatives this time and get myself in a credibility bind. This is the flashback schedule. It contains shocking info. You will be spoiled.
That’s right. NO flashback in episode 19. This is all per the Herc man at AintItCoolNews.com who, I might add, was wrong the last time… sooooooooo believe at your own risk.
3.17 Desmond Hume
3.18 Jin & Sun Kwon
3.19 no flashbacks!
3.20 Benjamin Linus
3.21 Charlie Pace
3.22-23 Jack Shephard
Wait so what happened to the DeGroots flashback? was that just a rumor?
Comment by Mek — April 12, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
It should be a relief… but I’m scared. Someone hold me.
Comment by ungabunga — April 12, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Isn’t 20 a Degroots…
Comment by Bigbenguy — April 12, 2007 @ 6:25 pm
3.19 will have flashbacks about two dharma scientists. Supposed to show how it started, and the finale will be Ben’s flashbacks not Jacks. It will show the incident and the purge.
Comment by Tim — April 12, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
It could be that episode 20 just goes back in history and includes ben, the degroots, dharma etc.
Eps 19..no flashback? Novel idea. Well not really. I’ve been speculating that the flashback story telling has not only written them into a small corner, but now takes away precious time from the present story and our survivors. It’ll be interesting how they do this.
Comment by RazzleDazzle — April 12, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
They already did a casting call for the degroots episode though, so this can’t be true. Plus how else would we see Roger unless in a flashback for that episode?
Comment by Johobi — April 12, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
Noooo, not Jack, please no more Jack…
19, no flashbacks in my opinion means it will be set entirely in the past (kind of like the other 48 days). We will see all about Gerald and Karen, but it will not be a flashback, because there won’t be a “real-time” storyline.
Comment by teataine — April 12, 2007 @ 6:35 pm
i agree. NO MORE JACK!!!!! in my opinion… they really should kill him off. here is my idea for how flashbacks should go…
317: Desmond
318: no flashback
319: Sawyer… seeing how all signs point to Cooper being his father and producers said that the Locke/Cooper thing would be resolved here.
320: another no flashback.. cuz im kinda gettin bored with em’. the only awesome one was Juliet.
322-323: Ben
wat do ya think?
Comment by lostfreak711 — April 12, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
NO!! i want a really F’ed Up Jack Story. that shows why he’s such a punk now, like someone pooping on his chest.
Comment by BooYAH — April 12, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
Out of curiosity, why should we expect Ben to survive the season? Aside from being:
A) Awesome
B) A great foil for our knights in tarnished armor
C) Apparently integral to understanding the Others’ motivations at this stage of the game
It sounds as though before season-end, we’ll be meeting head-honcho Jacob in addition to another contingent of islanders, perhaps making Ben somewhat extraneous. And he does have a flashback episode coming up.
I know it’s very unlikely he’s going anywhere, and I love the character. But is there any cut-and-dried reason to keep him around after the coming revelations? Could Danielle get her revenge this soon?
Comment by ungabunga — April 12, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
Wow - no flashbacks is SCARY. I really, really hope it’s a gimmicky episode (Other 48 Days style) and not a new precedent of just randomly not having flashbacks b/c they don’t feel like it / couldn’t think of a parallel… I mean I know some people don’t like the Flashbacks b/c they take away from main story time… but to me Lost wouldn’t be Lost without the Flashbacks. I don’t mind the occasional gimmick/different format episode… but I hope this isn’t a precedent for things to come in Season 4… The flashbacks are honestly what makes Lost Lost - without them it would be a good, crazy story, but not the brilliant artistic vision it is.
Comment by SagaciousPenguin — April 12, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
SagaciousPenguin, I COMPLETELY AGREE!
Comment by mike — April 12, 2007 @ 9:53 pm
Has anyone noticed that the name posted for the season finale @spoilerfix is “Through the Looking Glass”? I think this is an obvious hint that Christian the “White Rabbit” will be the source of much anticipation over the Summer/Fall hiatus.
Comment by Chad — April 12, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Just read over at Dark’s lost spoiler section that 19 will focus on a season 1 mystery. Could this mean that we might get answers about smoke and/or the whispers?
And a shot in the dark here; what if Smokey was crated after the purge by some DHARMA scientists who survived just long enough after the purge to create a ’security system’ to prevent something like the purge happening again?
Comment by viv101 — April 13, 2007 @ 12:19 am
Just read over at Dark’s lost spoiler section that 19 will focus on a season 1 mystery. Could this mean that we might get answers about smoke and/or the whispers?
And a shot in the dark here; what if Smokey was crated after the purge by some DHARMA scientists who survived just long enough after the purge to create a ’security system’ to prevent something like the purge happening again?
Comment by vivthaker — April 13, 2007 @ 12:20 am
I agree with the speculations that ep 19 will be in a past timeline but not a flashback. Could the ‘mystery’ of the first season be the skeletons in the cave? the blackrock? The real Henry Gale? Christian Shepherd? (he did appear on the island, whether it was Jacks imagination or not is up for debate). The ‘incident’?
I don’t know about the whispers though, if you go to lostpedia and look up the whispers it will show you what they say.
I also think that the finale will heavily involve Christian. And whats with a Charlie episode between Ben and Jack’s flashbacks? No one wants to know about charlie, there are more important things now!!
Comment by Ben's Wheelchair — April 13, 2007 @ 12:57 am
I agree with the speculations that ep 19 will be in a past timeline but not a flashback. Could the ‘mystery’ of the first season be the skeletons in the cave? the blackrock? The real Henry Gale? Christian Shepherd? (he did appear on the island, whether it was Jacks imagination or not is up for debate). The ‘incident’?
I don’t know about the whispers though, if you go to lostpedia and look up the whispers it will show you what they say.
I also think that the finale will heavily involve Christian. And whats with a Charlie episode between Ben and Jack’s flashbacks? No one wants to know about charlie, there are more important things now!!
Comment by Ben's Wheelchair — April 13, 2007 @ 12:57 am
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Comment by Ben's Wheelchair — April 13, 2007 @ 1:25 am
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Comment by Ben's Wheelchair — April 13, 2007 @ 1:25 am
Doc doesn’t know.
I seriously doubt the ‘no flashback’.
Ben for 20 is possible, but not solid. I’m tired of the guessing, if it’s not confirmed, say so.
I’m not sold that the finale isn’t Ben.
Comment by Juliet — April 13, 2007 @ 3:48 am
3.19 has to be the John Locke island flashback where we pick up from “Tallahassee Man” (says Cuselof).
Comment by radnac — April 13, 2007 @ 4:15 am
Maybe the season 1 mystery is the cable that sayid found, as the producers sid that this would come into play soon??
Comment by rob — April 13, 2007 @ 4:19 am
Episode 19 is the episode where Locke brings Sawyer to cooper
Comment by docarzt — April 13, 2007 @ 5:09 am
i think that season 3 will end wih everyone on the island coming out of the closet and confessing gayness. women inluded. then the last scene will be them all walking off into the sunset to the aladdin song “a whole new world”. what do u think?
egards,
matt
Comment by matt — April 13, 2007 @ 5:30 am
…ummm…interesting, BUT…www.tv.com…more likely to be a better source of info, has had the flashback schedule like this for quite a few weeks now…
Catch 22 - Desmond
D.O.C - Jin&Sun
The Brig - Jack
The Man Behind the Curtain - Dharma (or more significantly Horace and Olivia)
Greatest Hits - Charlie
Through the looking glass pt 1 & 2 - Ben
link here..
http://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/episode_guide.html?season=3&tag=season_dropdown;dropdown;2
your info may well be true doc….but i rekon this one makes more sense, an you’ve said he’s been wrong before
P.S…just thought i’d drop my 2 cents an say if TV.com is right….my money’s on Horace & Olivia to be Rose & Bernard
Comment by carlos — April 13, 2007 @ 5:46 am
I’m still pissed at Locke for blowing up The Flame. It would have been an awesome party house, especially with the satellite dish working. I wonder if it could pick up ESPN 8, “The Ocho”? But seriously, the sequence of these last few events has been shuffled around so many times, I don’t know what to think.
Comment by boonesghost — April 13, 2007 @ 6:01 am
I wouldn’t get so worked up. Lets wait until the episode airs to pass judgement on it. Herc could be very wrong, and even if he isn’t, given the secretive nature of this episode so far, and the depth of the season at this point, it will most likely still blow your socks through your shoes.
Comment by ShannonsBoyfriend — April 13, 2007 @ 6:04 am
Hey thanks for pointing that out carlos. The officially sanctioned info at tv.com is good, but a lot of the info is user submitted. Same as imdb. Herc has come through before, but his batting average is in jeopardy with this one.
Comment by docarzt — April 13, 2007 @ 6:04 am
#1 We dont need a Sawyer flashback for the Cooper story because we have a locke flashback which I think everyone can agree are way better than Sawywers anyway.
#2 The no-flashbacks episode will prob be about the Dharma group or degroots and since we dont know any of them other than Desmond, who we already know the story for, we can asume thie episode will be like a ” the other 48 days episode” but probably dealing with a very longer period of time.
#3 You people have no faith in Jack what so ever. Its disapointing really do you think the writers of lost are morons and would waste the final two episodes of boring flashbacks. Jack is a major and i mean major twist for the ending were going to learn something about him or his father that will change how lost is now. So stop saying that the Jack back is going to be horrible just because some of his other ones haven’t been great. Weve already been told the season ending will be huge and they wouldnt have a couple of Jack backs if Jack wasn’t a giant and awesome factor in the ending. My guest and remember this is only a guess is that Christian or Jack are Jacob and his flashbacks will be alot about this and it will help us define the others alot better. Also I beleive there is a third group of others on the island and Jack will be a huge factor in protecting everyone from it
Comment by DMS — April 13, 2007 @ 6:08 am
What about Party of Five??? He survived 6 or 7 seasons. They won’t kill off Jack. Hopefully Juliet will get purged because she is such a double crosser. Sometimes I wish you could watch South Park and Lost at the same time. As for the Dharma flashback, if not this season and with no internet conspiracy sites, Dharma may not get answered until the show is over. I mean, they didn’t show the wizard in the wizard of oz right off the bat, or did they?
Comment by Justin — April 13, 2007 @ 6:20 am
I just had a quick question to clear up…what exactly was “The Purge?” I’m a little confused here…
Comment by Brett — April 13, 2007 @ 6:31 am
Brett:
The “purge” is what Mikhail called the battle between the others and dharma, in which dharma was pretty much destroyed.
Not to be a know it all but it just really pisses me off when I pose a question and nobody answers it.
Comment by thefallguy1 — April 13, 2007 @ 6:38 am
There has been a huge thing bugging me lately and I really need to post it somewhere so im going to do it here. For a while now the 815ers have been in contact with the others, like Jack being in the others camp and Locke going on a trek threw the jungle with Ben but after a couple of seasons everyone has forgotten that the others are bad guys, like I mean not good guys we shouldn’t be involved with them kinda people. Seriously, now seriously how many people do you think were surprised that Juliet would do that to the 815ers just to get into their camp, let me awnser that question … ALOT! How many people really shouldve been surprised NONE!! If I remember correctly Juliet slept with Goodwin the guy who killed a guy by snapping his neck just because he wasn’t a bad guy. Juliet was also friends with Ethan who kiddnapped Claire, hung Charlie from a tree and beat Scott/Steve to death. They also got Micheal to kill Ana Lucia which im grateful for and Libby!!! These are not good people. And they did tests on Walt a kid. They are not to be trusted someone please interrogate Juliet or something at least stop her
Comment by DMS — April 13, 2007 @ 7:33 am
DMS:
One word and one phrase. “Perspective” and “Shades of Gray”.
You want to say that the Others are bad? Bad compared to what? Kate killed a man. Jin beat people. Charlie abused drugs, shot a man, and kidnapped Sun. Sawyer conned people out of their life savings. Michael shot two people in cold blood. Sayid tortured people.
THESE are not good people either. You don’t know the whole story, and may find out that the Others are justified in the way they conduct business.
Comment by icyone — April 13, 2007 @ 8:05 am
Herc’s sources are pretty awful. 3.19 DOES have a flashback, but it’s of a certain character’s recent past…someone who’s been MIA the last few episode, but will come back in a big way.
Comment by algernon45 — April 13, 2007 @ 8:22 am
for those of you who are tired of jack (myself included) and want him dead, another flashback episode would be the perfect place for him to die in. the fact that the finale may be jack centric and that there are still 2-3 deaths looming means he’s a perfect candidate to die.
Comment by KoozyK — April 13, 2007 @ 8:42 am
What about Danielle (the french lady) ? Maybe she gets her flashback in 3×19. Or maybe we see what she did on the island for 16 years (including the DeGroots and a younger ben) ?!
Who knows…
and what about her pragnancy when claire was the first woman that survived it ?!?!
Comment by DiaR — April 13, 2007 @ 8:59 am
In case it’s not become obvious by now, the amount of mis-information coming out is increasing as the season winds to a close.
Comment by Rain — April 13, 2007 @ 9:07 am
>And whats with a Charlie episode between Ben and Jack’s >flashbacks? No one wants to know about charlie, there are >more important things now!!
charlie’s dead that episode by Juliet’s hand. I’m calling it!
Comment by peter — April 13, 2007 @ 9:29 am
I’ve come to realize that the Lost producers want us to feel the same kind of uncertainty that the 815ers do. We are all in the dark regarding many questions, just as they (the 815ers) are. This is all part of the beauty of the show - we, the viewers are potentially the victims of a long con - yes even to the level of false information being “leaked” regarding flash backs. And I like it this way. This is what made the season 1 finale so great - the potential for the unknown. This is also why I am on the edge of my seat every week waiting for answers - in other words, it keeps me interested in the show because I want more and more -
Just my 2 cents…
Comment by Jay — April 13, 2007 @ 9:48 am
If episode 19 will “focus on a mystery from Season 1,” and the episode’s title is “The Brig” — then my guess is that the aforementioned Season 1 mystery will be The Black Rock (a ship, which would naturally have a brig).
Comment by Jicket — April 13, 2007 @ 9:48 am
the finale is jack. It’s titled “through the looking glass” aka alice in wonderland reference. the last lost episode with an alice in wonderland reference “white rabbit” with jack trekkin through the jungle following his “dad” to find an empty casket. I think this will reveal Christain alive aka Jacob. I really want Kelvin aka Clancy Brown to be Jacob.
I also believe that Jack is on Julet’s side, don’t know if they are good or bad but I think he is in on it and whatever it is jack will show his true colors in the finale.
Comment by cekma — April 13, 2007 @ 9:59 am
Tv.com is unreliable. Two years ago I submitted info stating that ep 13 of season 2 would be Locke centric, we find out that Locke was paralyzed in the same accident as Sara, Eko and Sawyer would find a beaten Cindy in the jungle, and Ana-Lucia would find the cable and follow it to a new underwater hatch. You may remember Kristen repeating these same spoilers on her show.
My point? Anyone can post anything they want on tv.com and I trust that doc posted the correct episode centric considering DarkUFO posted the same thing this morning and he is hardly ever wrong.
Comment by Muscle_Bob_Buff_Pants — April 13, 2007 @ 10:05 am
Anyone consider that the mystery of season 1 that will be addressed in 3.19 will be Adam and Eve. What if those two bodies are the DeGroots? The following episode is Ben centric and could show the DeGroots there too and the purge, etc.
Comment by Nolan — April 13, 2007 @ 10:44 am
nolan-
the adam and eve mystery will not be revealed until the very end of the show. the darlton put them in the beginning of season 1 so that at the end of the entire show they could say “see? we had it planned out from the very beginning.”
Comment by goldenmalicious — April 13, 2007 @ 10:48 am
I think it’s fairly obvious the mystery from season 1 is who is the real Sawyer?
Comment by Muscle_Bob_Buff_Pants — April 13, 2007 @ 11:00 am
the mystery of season 1 will be sayids cable. TPTB said it will come into play before the end of the season so that would make sense
Comment by rob — April 13, 2007 @ 11:12 am
Yes, there was a clip of Dominic Monaghan being interviewed by Kristen where it was mentioned that someone would be swimming underwater to connect a cable.
Comment by boonesghost — April 13, 2007 @ 11:38 am
I think it is funny when anyone refers to anything having to do with LOST as, ‘…fairly obvious…’ Maybe I am just a simpleton, but nothing about this show seems obvious to me!
Comment by Chandler — April 13, 2007 @ 11:48 am
tvguide.com reported this flashback order today, i’d say it’s legit.
Comment by cekma — April 13, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
Who’s complaining about Charlie’s episode being in between Ben’s and Jack’s? I feel comfortable saying that it won’t just be a “here’s what happened to Charlie X number of years ago” kind of flashback. I’m betting it’s going to be like Desmond’s last flashback, and we’re going to see what happened to Charlie when the hatch exploded. My guess is that it will give a lot of insight (or perhaps outright reveal) why Charlie is “supposed” to die.
Comment by Michael — April 13, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
I might be alone here, but I hope Charlie doesn’t die. I think his character adds a lot to the story line. Specifically the Claire and Aaron story but also Desmond and Locke. If he does die, then it would be at the hands of someone close to Ethan. Juliet will probably tell Ben when he comes back that it was Charlie who killed Ethan, and an eye for an eye will ensue. Another possibility (the one I’m hoping for) is that Desmond sees this death and figures out a way to save him. By the way, if the final episode is entitled “Through the Looking Glass,” then I believe this schedule (finale=Jack flashback) is more reliable than the previous (finale=Ben). The title obviously syncs up with the ultra-creepy “White Rabbit” episode. I know there’s a lot of Jack haters out there, but “White Rabbit” was one of the best…
Comment by cap10tripps — April 13, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
WHAT?! No DeGroot flashback? argh!
Comment by AnotherOther — April 13, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
Maybe in the Charlie episode it will show all the flashes desmond had of charlie dieing.
Comment by Martin — April 13, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Now Aintitcoolnews.com is saying Ep.19 is a Locke flashback. So he indeed, was wrong.
Comment by Aeolian42 — April 13, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
I agree with Muscle_Bob_Buff_Pants.
If Doc and Dark both say the flashbacks are those listed, you should take it to the bank.
Besides, as many people have pointed out White Rabbit=Jack Flashback, Jack sees Christian on the Island.
Through the Looking Glass is another Lewis Carroll reference. It must be either Jack or Christian related.
We know they like having huge twists for the season finale. I can buy a big Jack twist shocking us.
Maybe we learn that Jack really has his own agenda and isn’t so lame after all. I don’t buy him trusting Juliette blindly. Maybe Jack is the snake in the mailbox or Cobra. Maybe Jack is working with the Other Others.
Maybe Christian really is alive or we learn that Jack had something to do with his death.
I can’t wait. I think James Ford meeting Sawyer (aka Locke’s Dad, aka The man from Talahassee) will be my favorite episode. The no flashback episode….
Comment by Blackrockbob — April 13, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
They are now reporting there WILL be flashbacks for 3.19 and it’s LOCKE. Apparently the flashback will go back to when he opens the door and sees his dad. Because the flashbacks were pretty recent and involving current events, the rumor got out that there was no flashback.
It is still assumed that the Degroot Flashback (Now Ben Centric) will still feature the Degroots and will take place (at least partly) in the 70’s. I am sill holding this as rumer as well as Jack’s finale (unless he is to die, which is a HUGE rumor out there, so that would make sense)
Comment by RazzleDazzle — April 13, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
Has anyone heard anything about the possibility of a Rousseau (ie, Danielle) flashback? It would be extremely cool to see what her crew experienced on the island - including when the swiped Alex. Might tell us a good bit about Dharma and what our Losties are going through parallel wise.
Comment by Annu — April 14, 2007 @ 10:12 am