Lost Pull’s a ‘Prisoner’ with Expose
Warning: This article is guaranteed to bore you to death. You have been warned.
The producers of LOST are in a unique position. While it was self effacing for sure, Expose held a lot of messages in its subtext that, in my opinion, amounted to somebody’s catharsis in the hallowed halls of LOST production. I reference the ‘Prisoner’ for a very specific reason. There is much to be said for the genesis of Patrick McGoohan’s surreal little gem. Taken at its most shallow viewing, ‘The Prisoner’ is a unique premise full of mystery, imbued with themes of individualism, and the spontaneous regimentation we suffer by merely ‘participating’ in a society, no matter how ‘free’ we perceive ourselves.
Beneath that, however, was an entirely different story. It hasn’t all been told, but enough is known to make a few good guesses. ‘The Prisoner’ came to be when Patrick McGoohan, exhausted by the rigors of his success with "Secret Agent Man" (or "Danger Man", if you’re UK nasty), and feeling rather pigeon holed, refused to sign on to the show, which he saw as having no end other than to eventually creatively sputter out. He convinced the studio to give him carte blanche to pursue a new cutting edge spy thriller, with a twist. The consensus is, once the ink dried, McGoohan shrewdly transmuted the show from quirky spy thriller, to personal allegory; a statement about, amongst other things, his personal dissatisfaction with the assembly line mentality that had led him to become a - very successful - stereotype. Artists were not born to paint one picture over and over again.
I’ve always felt Stephen Wiliams’ episodes carried some hint of the same sort of creative rebellion that permeated ‘The Prisoner’; that ability to quietly thumb your nose at the industry, and even the viewers, who have, because of your integrity, come to expect nothing but the same from you over and over again - demand it, really.
Certainly when a show with as high a level of artistry as LOST makes a television show part of its plot, it is time to take notice. Not because they may, necessarily, make the same sort of bold transgressions as Mr. McGoohan did so many years ago (something tells me these guys are a little more level headed), but it is still worth taking in the contours of how they see themselves, in caricature form.
That said, there is so much that seems light hearted, but may constitute a stealthy kick-to-the-crotch of LOST’s more traditionally ‘bland’ contemporaries. The identification of Expose as a product of high concept (like Baywatch, but better.) LOST itself is high concept, it started as Castaway the series, then became Castaway meets The Twilight Zone, before the nuance took over like a thriving bacteria and consumed any trace of contrivance.
What about the obviously self referential moment where Nikki comments on how ‘everybody knows what happens to guest stars’. We could cast a wider net and say that Expose is LOST in its most empty headed representation: a show about strutting hotties confronting a shifting menace.
I could reach a little further into absurdity and say there was an allegory present in Expose that was very much about creativity and individuality. It is the story of a wise, successful man who’s final secret was stolen by forces who were never meant to possess, or create, its beauty, and in the end, their blind ambition to control that force, and each other, came to no good. They found themselves paralyzed, consumed by those who continued to dare and explore, while they struggled to evoke the fortunes of another.
I am not a number! Razzle Dazzle!
Comment by Dusk — March 29, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
This may or may not fit with this post but could their being buried alive have some hidden meaning? Could it be some kind of sense that fans and/or critics left the show for dead when it was just going through a “slow” period before it came back to life? Or, and this goes more with the show itself, could it be a clue that there is indeed an “underworld” below the island? Nikki and Paulo are buried alive signifying a kind of life underground. Neither are likely relevant but it’s more fun to read into the show rather than take it as face value.
Comment by bdub — March 29, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
this is kinda seperate from your post but i wanted to put this out there. when i first watched the episode i hated it, there were a few good moments but i felt it was filler and full of holes. i watched it back with a friend and we started picking at it and ridiculing it. then one of us said something that triggered a chain of events that created this theory:
the whole episode is disguised as filler with no real importance but in actual fact it could come back next year with an entirely new meaning.
maybe the cobra reveal in series 4 is a clue to when we find out who “him” really is. someone we’ve known all along and may have suspected but had no real evidence. we learnt that a bite of the medusa spider induces a paralysed state and slows heart rate, kinda like faking death. more important is nikki’s statement about how “even a good doctor would miss the heart rate.” what if expose is the backstory to a reveal next season that Christian Shepard is “him.” he faked his own death using the venom of the medusa spider in order to trick jack. the coffin in the plane was empty which is why jack couldnt find a body on the island and Christian is alive and well on the island. although if he is i think he could be working with the theorised second others.
its definitely a long shot, but in this eventuality “nina and pablo” would truly become iconic. the greatest trick they could have pulled is showing us an episode that does nothing to advance the plot, with the exception of sun/sawyer/charlie, but secretly hints at a major reveal.
as a side note i’ve also noticed how it sounds like john terry at the beginning of each episode saying “previously on lost…..”
Comment by bootselectric — March 29, 2007 @ 7:05 pm
just seen on imdb that its not john terry doing the intros!
Comment by bootselectric — March 29, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
just because it isn’t said enough…
RAZZLE DAZZLE
Comment by Merlboroman — March 29, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
you’re right, john terry is miscredited with the “previously on lost” line.. it is actually some guy named Lloyd or something
Comment by razzlefreakindazzle — March 29, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
The episode sucked. Stop trying to justify it.
Comment by Fargo. — March 29, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
Loved the episode from the opening credits. I thought it was a wonderful diversion, a love letter to Alfred Hitchcock. The ending was like some of the episodes of his TV show. People destroyed by self-centered greed, buried alive with their now-worthless diamonds. Lost has been referring to TV shows one way or another for a long time, with a Desperate Housewives send-up featuring Jin and Sun, for instance, but this was totally black-humoured evil, the way ol’ Hitch himself used to do it. The black widow, a young woman luring men to their deaths for money, killed by the male spiders irresistably lured a female spider’s pheromones. It was ironic, amoral and manipulative and I hadn’t seen it done that well in years. As for Baywatch, it has become the clich
Comment by Odette — March 29, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
YOU suck. Stop trying to justify Fargo.
Comment by nobody important — March 29, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Don’t forget that Patrick McGoohan had to do a bit of nose-thumbing when ITC insisted on doing a longer run of The Prisoner than the originally intended seven episodes. Hence all those wacky out-of-the-Village episodes towards the end of the show (not to mention the hastily-written finale).
Expose wasn’t great, but I’ll side with you here, Doc: the producers talked up this episode because it was a big dig at ABC for putting pointless “sexy new beach character” demands on them. I’d almost call it ballsy if the ABC execs didn’t just blindly lap it up as a self-contained storyline with lots of skin, lots of needless re-capping of main story arc points, and (gulp!) a treasure…which you know they did.
OTOH, D&C need to *stop* pulling punches. They’re contracted and can almost do no wrong. The show needs to be done right and it’s time to do it right.
Comment by Richard Lennox — March 29, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
The thing I’m most happy with about this series is the same thing that won my heart with “WestWing”….it makes people think. It’s made people actually go on the net and try and find out who B.F. Skinner and David Hume were. Just like West Wing when the Vice President resigns, leaving a gaping hole in government which isn’t filled when the President has a traumatic event happen to him that requires he (at least temporarily) step down and hand command of the nation over to the Speaker of the House utilizing the 25th amendment. Millions of viewers then combed the internet to find out what the 25th amendment to our constitution actually said…..not even my enthusiastic college Poly Sci teacher could motivate that much from his class. This is truly a thinking series.
That being said, I think TPTB have underestimated their audience from time to time and tried to come up with “fixes” to corners they’d painted themselves into (Pikki being one of those attempted fixes); found out that the fanbase heartily dissaproved of their judgement and, so, they fixed the bad fix (Expose). Personally, I don’t think there was anything cathartic about the episode…..that’s not to say they can’t build something truly spectacular out of it at a later date to save a little face. But, as it stands right now, I think the episode was a pretty d*mn good ending to an, otherwise, mistake in judgement.
Comment by Tracy — March 29, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
Come to think of it, it *was* cathartic
There just weren’t any valuable elucidation.
Comment by Tracy — March 29, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
You could say this episode was also thumbing its nose at the fans with all their useless speculating and childish impatience.
Before the show was even able to develop Nikki and Paulo’s characters, the fans blew up, yelled incessantly about their seemingly vapid nature– but when we are finally exposed to their motivations, we discover Paulo is an extremely likable and sympathetic character. It’s like Ford Maddox Ford’s “The Good Soldier,” where a bland statement of fact is turned into wild and engaging story.
By all means, Nikki and Paulo were buried alive by the fans, which is sad, because the lowbrow expectations of the Lost community might have closed off a very profitable angle of storytelling. This episode was a very clever in addressing the nerd fans and haters.
I would just advise all the impatient nerds out there to quit the wild (and often stupid) speculating, and take a moment to think about how stories are told.
Comment by Daniel — March 29, 2007 @ 11:14 pm
Even in a drunken state, I can tell you all that Expose was a tongue in cheek reference to all the shows that can be summed up in an hour: CSI, Criminal Minds’ Law and Order(all of them)…It was basically a smack in the face of those who think this show can be surmissed in one big lump…it ain’t gonna happen….
This episode was a direct shove in the face of thoseshows that can be summed up in an hour…I felt like I was watching CSI…c’mon….even Sawyer asked about the “crime scene”….
Bottom line: this episode was merely to satisfy those fans that wonder what the other 40 passengers are up to on the island…So we get a back story about some diamond smugglers..Personally I’m disappointed…it was my theory that Paulo had direct involvement with the guys in the Arctic station…turns out he was just a lowly chef…
which confirms Occum’s theory: The simplest answer is often the right answer
Comment by El Prez — March 29, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
I’ve seen the Prisoner. Expose was no Prisoner. Doc, I think you’re reaching with this one. Yes, the writers room was thumbing their proverbial “nose” at the audience in one sense but I highly doubt any deeper allegories are at play.
Sometimes bad characters are just bad characters and the writers have to find a way to get rid of them. I will say that if the episode was indeed some sort of foreshadowing technique, it’s a pretty clumsy one. Sometimes, writers can be too ironic for their own good.
Comment by sandleford — March 30, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Personally, I think it’s hilarious when the writers/producers throw back things at the network and stupid impatient and arrogant ‘fans’. Oh, and those boring TV shows that are so popular with their beginning and end in the same episode too. Nikki and Paulo were a jab at the ‘fans’ from the beginning, what with Paulo and his bathroom obsession (Because someone had to ask such a low question as to why no one goes, that’s like asking why no one talks about breathing. geez.) and their utter cluelessness of not being included in ‘the loop’ like the fans not getting their so coveted ‘answers’ from the producers and writers.
And if I’m not mistaken, maybe this was a bit of a jab at Heroes as well? Diamonds in a baggie that were stolen from a rich man who was murdered(Like Matt), a lame ’super’ character like Nikki(two Nikki’s that strip…how about that? Which was better? Razzle Dazzle! lol!) in her TV show with a terrible and unconvincing villain(Ugh, don’t get me started on Syler), and don’t forget what Hurley said to Desmond, ‘Dude, your power is lame’ just as many powers on Heroes are. lol! Maybe I’m reading too much into that, but it’s glorifying either way to the doubters and complainers and I am with the Lost team all the way because I watched from the first and I’m proud to stay with it until the end.
Comment by Chelsy — March 30, 2007 @ 12:39 am
After Expose, I’d have to say Paulo was far from a bad character. Trying to excuse him as worthless before his story is introduced is extremely foolish.
The show suffers worse from dumb fans (for endless examples, check the messageboards). Some of you are serious bum-outs.
Comment by D — March 30, 2007 @ 12:40 am
I couldn’t understand why everyone was hating so much on Paulo and Nikki and they hadn’t even had a scene… for gods sake, I agree with “D” in the comment above, the show is suffering from dumb, impatient fans who are so obnoxious that they think the show should always go the way they want it to (why don’t they make their own show? or better, go put their heads in the ocean and cool off)
This episode “Expose’” sure did “RAZZLE DAZZLE” me, I was like “WTH?” the first 30 minutes, haha… but I mean that in a good way.
I think Nikki
Comment by Sara — March 30, 2007 @ 1:29 am
Here, here, Sara!
Comment by Chelsy — March 30, 2007 @ 1:34 am
Down with nerds!
Comment by D — March 30, 2007 @ 1:38 am
Whose side are you on?!
Comment by teataine — March 30, 2007 @ 1:50 am
You’re either with the nerds, their impatience, their poor speculating, and near illiterate viewing or you’re against them.
It’s time to stand up against the nerds.
Comment by D — March 30, 2007 @ 2:00 am
Well personally Im offended. There are some of us theorizers, who keep our minds open. We try and think about our favorite show and also be open to possibilities. Calling us nerds and the reason for losing Paulo and Nikki is offensive. If I remember correctly no one sided with them. I never sided myself as I wanted to see where the characters went. And then I posted. I found that I liked Paulo, still hated Nikki and was sad to see them go. So stop rushing to hasty judgements. The theorizers and the commenters are what make LOST great. If we didnt look so deep we wouldn’t be able to enjoy this show as much as it can be enjoyed.
Comment by jalocke — March 30, 2007 @ 3:48 am
Will we ever know if N&P’s demise were really brought on by their haters online? We might never. I hope Cyndi and the tailie kids don’t suffer the same fate. Is it me or did they make it so that N & P can claw their way out next ep or in some future ep? The issues they’ll have with the people who buried them might be more interesting than their backgrounds though. Razzle Dazzle! might live on after all ya never know. We’ll just have to wait in the following weeks.
Comment by Huygens — March 30, 2007 @ 4:04 am
In an issue of depth, don’t get me wrong. Exodus was no ‘Prisoner’, particularly in that there was no message of general social importance, unless you work in the TV industry. I’d go a bit further with this and tell you how I really feel: how the character of Corvette and Nikki are functionally the same in both universes, or how Expose’s popularity in LOST-verse is a statement on how people prefer glitzy crap over intelligent programming. It could, very well, be an homage to another golden age of television. Let’s not look back at the days of Knight Rider, and Charlie’s Angels with too much disgust. Those were times much like this, in a lot of ways. And just to reply to the catharsism lacking elucidation, that is not necessary. One can cathart without revealing they are doing so.
Comment by docarzt — March 30, 2007 @ 4:42 am
You people are entertaining. You sit here and deify the producers of Lost for “thumbing their noses” at you, the fans. No, wait. They weren’t thumbing their noses at you in particular, but those other fans. The ones with the theories and the impatience, oh, and the fondness for Heroes. Well, I hate to break it to you, but your ‘holier-than-thou’ perceptions are nothing more than blind faith, ignorance and fanaticism.
Expose was a waste of time. It was a necessary evil used to correct the mistake that was Nikki and Paulo - two completely unnecessary and irrelevant characters. What did they add to the Lost mythos? Nothing. Would the story thus far have been greatly altered if they were never introduced? No. They were simply added to the roster to increase hype for season three, hype that failed to pay off. The producers needed to cut their losses, and so Expose was written. Sure, the episode dealt with the demise of these characters in a somewhat clever and cynical manner, slighting the very fanbase that forced their hand. But is it really our fault, or that of the producers for adding two uninteresting and irrelevant characters to a show that is already over-saturated with character development?
I’m a fan of Lost, not a fanatic. The difference is being able to admit your favourite show has made the occasional misstep.
Oh, and I think your bashing of Heroes is cute. You mistake a coherent and well-planned storyline for being “stupid,” but that is only because you’ve grown so accustomed to the very opposite with Lost.
Comment by Fargo. — March 30, 2007 @ 5:59 am
“What did they add to the Lost mythos? Nothing. ” -Fargo
Ha! Nothing? To that I say: RAZZLE FREAKING DAZZLE.
Carry on.
Comment by TrillianM — March 30, 2007 @ 6:27 am
You were right Doc,
it was boring!
Comment by thirdflr — March 30, 2007 @ 6:53 am
Hey Fargo… the Lost bashing board is a few urls over. Seriously though, I don’t care if you disagree with me… no really, I don’t care… but you happen to be mistaken that this is an attempt to elevate the quality of the episode as a whole. In fact, I say nothing of how I feel about the episode here. That’s an entirely different discussion. I merely think that Expose’ was used, symbolically, to sneak in a few barbs at both the industry and the expectations of fans. Was it the central notion of the director to use the episode to voice his opinion, like “The Prisoner”. No way. Is it Fellini, Greenway, or even Alejandro Jodorowsky? Nah! If you get a ‘Holier-than-thou’ attitude from the article, then all I can say is you are someone who lacks an appreciation for subtly, and apparently feels guilty enough about it to attack those who do not.
Comment by docarzt — March 30, 2007 @ 8:48 am
well thirdflr, at least I warned you
I guess in order to satisfy everybody I’ll have to start also disclaiming “Warning: this article may be full of sycophantic gushing.”
Comment by docarzt — March 30, 2007 @ 8:52 am
My first post was in response to the article, Doc, but my second post was in response to the comments. I wasn’t accusing you of having a ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude, I was referring to specific comment posters.
I read your site everyday, and value your theories and speculation. I think you can be a little fanatical at times, but generally stay with in reason. If you read the full thread of comments, I’m sure you’ll be able to understand the nature of my post a little more.
Comment by Fargo. — March 30, 2007 @ 11:22 am
docarzt, you had me at hello. Of course I want more, as this is a very interesting concept. I plan on watching Expose again tonight to see what I missed.
Comment by GodBlessTexas — March 30, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
My bad Fargo! Sorry for getting all defensive…
Comment by docarzt — March 30, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
Doc I meant no ill dude….it’s your site, I am just here to read!
have a good one
Comment by thirdflr — March 30, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Yes, Daniel. But you have to admit that in the age of (it leaves a bad taste in my mouth just to say it) American Idol where, ostensibly, audience input counts for a damn, Darlton is working against quite a force when it comes to feedback from fans. I appreciate the fact that they’ve been able to hold on to the intellectual aspect of LOST even while battling the forces of fans that INSIST their voices be heard even when they don’t know the whole story/plot.
It’s a delicate balance that I think, except for a few misses, they’ve been able to keep without compromising the worth of the storytelling they have to offer. It’s kind of sad really, that most folks (in this fast-paced, I-want-it-NOW world of ours) can’t sit back, toast their tootsies by the fire; chow down of s’mores and enjoy a good yarn. It makes their jobs more difficult but I think they’ve been able to hold their own.
The spoilers I’ve seen today suggest that they’re “damning the torpedos! Full speed ahead” with the storyline and fan input about 5 or 6 seasons be damned. They have a story to tell and they’re going to do it (their way, I hope).
The nuggets we’ve seen so far, in the past three seasons, (well…OK…..maybe not so much season 2) has me trusting them to take me away on a magic carpet ride that I have faith I’m going to enjoy completely and be satisfactorily dissapointed when it ends. Who didn’t want the bedtime story to end when they were kids, eh?
Comment by Tracy — March 30, 2007 @ 7:23 pm
That is to say (correct) “who wanted the bedtime story to end when they were kids, eh?
OK, I’m in a bit (just a little bit, not a lot) of a tipsy state myself
It’s Friday OK?!
Comment by Tracy — March 30, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
Tracy, I think the producers and writers are doing an excellent job of telling the story. Sure, there have been some blunders, but nothing so distracting that I have ever thought to throw in the towel.
But it’s the very notion of immediate fan-feedback, the overwhelming tide of unabashed stupidity that demands instant and cheap gratification that worries me. This ultimately will have an effect from the perspective of investors who care little about storytelling/art and instead focus on profit.
There are things I would do different (end the referential game that does not advance the story and acts more as a meta-guide for the introduction of philosophy. . . cool some of the dude tension, too, but, since we do not have the full story or even a tangible grasp on the direction of characters, it might be safe to speculate that some of the dude tension will build into major rivalries/change of allegiance as the characters redefine their motivations).
I really hope we haven’t seen the last of Nikki and Paulo, they could certainly turn into major players.
I suppose it just bugs the hell out of me that the vocal fanbase refuses to watch this show with a critical eye towards the narrative and the limitation of televised serials. So many “mysteries” can be solved when thinking realistically about production and the challenges of telling a fantastic story with the hindrance of the real world.
I don’t think nerds understand this.
p.s.
I also enjoy Lost. I do, however, see them as completely different shows with contrasting styles– in narrative and aim. Heroes really is lightweight with a story that doesn’t require multiple seasons to sufficiently finish.
I really admire that Lost limits the knowledge of the viewer to what the survivors know. Taking this into account, it should make sense that Locke and Desmond are the namesake of empiricist philosopher (even if neither character resemble the writing of either philosopher).
Wahooey Blast Off. Down with nerds.
Comment by D — March 30, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
I guess where I get confused with the two groups of thought that are clashing here is that, in my opinion, there is no correct way to ‘enjoy’ a show. To create parameters, tolerances, and limitations on how far a fan can go with their enjoyment is, frankly, asinine. In the end, what you take from LOST is a personal experience. If you look at your friends here in judgement, frankly, I think your missing the point. Particularly if your point of view is that someone is enjoying it ‘too much’.
Concerns that the conversations we have here are going to shape the future of the show are valid, but also just slightly narcissistic. Fan feedback carries more weight when it is echoed through the ratings apparatus that the networks have in place. Anything they get from us here is merely going to give voice to trends they already see. If LOST were getting 28 million viewers a week, there is no way in hell they would have changed the broadcast schedule no matter how much we bitched. They look to the ratings to see a problem, then to the viewers who participate in their controlled focus groups, then maybe gather a little intel out here. But the bottom line is, the changes start at ABC, not out here. The internet fan base isn’t as big as we would like to think in relation to LOST’s overall audience. It’s late, I’m sick… and I have no idea what I just wrote so I hope it makes sense to somebody… lol
Comment by docarzt — March 30, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Expose was one of my favorite episodes this season. I wrote as much on some other forum and was ridiculed for it, but I can’t help that. I like what I LIKE, and this episode kept me glued to the screen. I thought it was genious writing ingeniously executed, whether or not it contained reveals or ‘progressed the plot’ or satisfied the eternally malcontented fans…
While so many have been bitching about LOST having lost its way, I’ve felt that it’s never been more on track. It’s late, I’m drunk… and I have but a glimmer of an idea what I just wrote yet I hope it makes sense to somebody.
I am one of those who never felt that the writers don’t know what they’re doing, or that the seasons have gotten worse since the first, or that seemingly fluff or self-contained episodes don’t serve some purpose in telling the story. To me it seems that they’ve always known exactly what they’re doing in terms of the overall story and that they’re intent on staying the course as much as they’re able to, regardless of ratings or fan complaining. That’s not to say that these unfortunate factors aren’t an influence. I’m only saying that thus far, I don’t perceive that they’ve succeeded in derailing LOST from telling its story.
Comment by Lance — March 30, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
Doc,
I would agree with you that fanbase have less to do with corporate influences of the direction (or survival) of a show than we might like to think. But, you have to admit, (thanks, in part, to reality-TV-immediate-audience-participation/gratification shows) there is a mite more influence than there was before (reference to a bothersome insect intended, I assure you). It disturbs me that it’s more of a trend than it use to be (albeit not as much as ego would like to think it is). Immediate gratification is not all it’s cracked up to be and there’s something to be said for stoking the fires of imagination as a good mystery can always do. I’m jaded by the fact that current audiences seem to have lost their taste for such. I’m hoping Darlton have decided they don’t really give a damn and manage to get out the rest of their intriguing and sating story before the number crunchers pull the plug (unlike the unfortunate and premature end of Farscape and Firefly….OK….now you know where my loyalties lie ::grin::) One wonders (and could lay their hands on pretty fast, I’m sure) what European and European influenced audiences think of LOST. Maybe I’m an Anglophile snob (and maybe I’m totally off base) but I’d be willing to bet, they appreciate it more than we American audiences. One of the saving influences of Farscape was that is was run out of Australia. Sci-Fi channel be damned…they finished it anyway.
Comment by Tracy — March 31, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Oh for sure, I’m definitely in on that side of the conversation Tracy. What gets minced in with that, though, is that it is the perceived ability, or inability, of the audience to appreciate the work ‘properly’, that is partially blamed. I think even in a more refined society, where people value art (cherish, is probably a better word than value), that something like LOST is going to fail the moment it stops making money for somebody. One thing though, don’t let the malcontents fool you. As much as Darlton and ABC would like to see the negativity calm down, everybody is pleased with its performance. I see the fact that they tweak the show to our taste from time to time as more of a nod that they are listening, not an effort to ‘reclaim’ the glory days
Comment by docarzt — March 31, 2007 @ 6:33 am
Doc,
Like Expose, for instance ::grin:: I did pick up a few pokes and prods from Darlton at the negative feedback (”I’m a guest star and we all know what happens to guest stars”). And I did take a message from it “Hey fans, do you REALLY want this to go the way of Baywatch or are you going to have faith that this is a good story and trust that we know what we’re doing?” I’m glad Expose turned out as well as it did and I’m wondering if Pikki were “strawman” characters to give the fanbase a sense of “this one’s for you!”
And I’m REALLY glad to hear that they’re not allowing the story to be pushed around too much by feedback. They had me at episode 1
Comment by Tracy — March 31, 2007 @ 10:10 am
Sad to see that some people are upset about some of the conversation trends on this site. Tracy, you were wondering about a European perspective and I can assure you that Lost is much loved and followed over there. I have seen Seasons 1 and 2 in French and soon season 3 will be broadcast in French, which means I get to start over as soon as it ends in English. Despite awkward moments such as when the translators pass off Rousseau as German and get Shannon to translate German into French, I kid you not, it’s still a very intriguing show.
There is one thing I notice though. It’s a problem I’ve run into before. Americans don’t always seem comfortable with arguing for the sake of argument. For the pleasure of it, the sheer joy of butting heads. Do friends have to ever agree? Heck, they don’t even have to speak the same language, as you’ll note from Jin and Charlie. I find it strange when I run into this anger because people are having fun debating issues and stretching their neurons a little. Of course in the long run most of our theories will be proven wrong and every time that happens I say Kudos to Darlton for doing us all one better. It makes me realize why their names are on the TV screen and mine is on a fansite. So let us allow ourselves to be a little fanatical about our opinions. Let’s just keep the insults out one of the most stimulating discussions to come along in quite a while.
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