Five Weeks, no Locke! DAMNIT!
Okay, man from Tallahassee was, IMHO, the best episode this season. I mean seriously, the whole ‘box’ thing. That has caused so much of a rumble in the LOST community it isn’t funny. No. Seriously. It isn’t funny anymore. Stop it! The Box was a metaphor. There is NO box on the island. I’d stake my life on it. (The LOST writing staff now says, FINALLY! A way to get rid of this guy!)
But wow, how about word that while Locke’s importance to the story has increased by five million percent with this episode, we have to wait five episodes to find out! Ugh! That means no lock until either episode eighteen or nineteen. When i interviewed Michael Emerson he said nineteen was about to be filmed. He was also in New York at the time and said you wouldn’t see him for a few episodes. So I think it is safe to assume when they say Locke gets five eps off it is the five between "Tallahassee" and his return.
They also state that Locke AND his father are critical to the finale which will be episodes 21/22. So only about four more Locke eps this season. Damn you lords of LOST. Damn you.
But the big question is what does this all lead to? I took a stab at some LOST Predictions for season four in my article at BuddyTV. I’m dying to hear where you guys think this whole Locke thing is going. Read my predications, and get back to me with your own. We’ll meet in the comments and duke it out.
From what I heard I think that its just finding about locke and his father, not no locke at all.
Comment by DrLoboto — March 23, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
Didn’t they show Locke in the previews for next weeks episode?
Comment by Mike — March 23, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
Didn’t they show Locke in the previews for next weeks episode?
Comment by Mike — March 23, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
Finale 21 or 22? I thought it was to be 23 or 24 episodes? I am thinking it’s go 23 hours with 22/23 being the finale. 22 places the last at May 23. Any news yet on a 2 hour finale?
I don’t see how they are going to get away with no locke follow up for 5 episodes. I will assume they will write it in somehow, as the writing is getting tighter and I think they are anticipating some of the fan frustrations with not picking up storylines for weeks with no reason. Obviously there is going to have to be some immediate resolution with this weeks episode.
Comment by downthehatch — March 23, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Locke is in the episodes flashbacks
Comment by docarzt — March 23, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
Interesting predictions for season 4 Doc.
Has it been all but confirmed that there are other, Others? I made a theory last week that dealt with the other Others being the group that carry the sickness, terrorized Danielle, and live underground.
Comment by Muscle_Bob — March 23, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
the previous poster about episode numbers was right…from what has been said by TPTB it looks like there will be 22 seperate episodes this year, with the finale almost certainly being horus 22 and 23…
as for the predictions…I’m not sure if Cerebrus can go this year…I’ve always thought the big lug was too integral to the shows mythology to be revealed until the clear beginning of the end game…I do think that we’re going to find out something big about the outside world…particularly if the new blind item from E is about HP…that shows that TPTB are wanting to bring the outside world into LOST more…or to report on the states of it…
Comment by wedestroymyths — March 23, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Doc, as I read your predictions I couldn’t help but think of Watership Down (I’m sure you know why). Once again, the literary influence is staggering. I think you’re dead-money for season 4 and it’ll be interesting to watch it unfold. One question, do you think Charlie’s death and the fate of the “monster” will coincide?
Comment by Merlboroman — March 23, 2007 @ 8:57 pm
Why was the “box” thing funny anyway? Ben himself states, “Let me put it so you’ll understand, you understand boxes don’t you John?” and even Locke was teasing it in the episode… so, the writer WASN’T on drugs there… so people, what’s the big deal?
What Ben was saying is the same thing Locke himself has been saying since season 1- the island will give you whatever you want but first you have to give the island something.
Ben’s little “present” of Locke, I believe, wasn’t a “present” at all but a test… He failed and he’s going to get deposed because of it… he’s got too many witnesses, and he probably shouldn’t have gotten so cocky at the end there and boasted his little plan in front of Richard… And Juliet and Jack screws him up too for coming in right after John left to blow up the sub, which was why he looked so pissed and said “Don’t you knock?” and that’s also why he wanted John to take him so badly to the sub when he was leaving with Alex… he didn’t want anyone to find him there.
The island is punishing Ben, giving him sickness, and now he can’t walk… Because like John said in the episode, “You cheated”
and also, “That’s why you’re in the wheel chair, and I’m not.”
Gosh, people are so stupid… I understand what’s going on, don’t they get it?
I loved this episode, it was good to have John with Ben again… I think those two work together nicely. It sucks that we probably won’t see them for a while… grrr.
Comment by Sara — March 23, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
I’m half eye rolling already at this other Others business. I love the idea, don’t get me wrong, but if we take this show from where it began, plane crash, etc, up to the point where it is now, it seems a little…ridiculous. Psychiatric Initiatives, hatches built into the ground, 2 separate civilizations already on the Island, a submarine…
I’ve always been in the camp that believes the writers really do know what they are doing and aren’t just writing this thing off their asses, and I still am dangerously obsessed with this show and will watch it to its bitter end even if we end up finding out the whole thing was an acid trip from one of the background characters while asleep on flight 815 to LA.
But I’m starting to drift with the other Others, the sonic fence, Cuse and Lindelof disagreeing over whether Mikhail was dead or not, and all the other studd I mentioned above…It all just seems like we’re just gearing up to go up that big ramp…and jump the shark.
Comment by RedStarRevolution — March 24, 2007 @ 1:55 am
I think the box is real. Maybe its not just a “box” per se, but I honestly think ben was telling the truth.
And RedStar, where were you really expecting this show to go? I mean, as early as mid season 1, we already new that the island was full of polar bears, synchronicities, smoke monsters, mysterious whispers, hatches, miraculous healings and psychic children…
None of that really says “logical conclusions are forthcoming”, or am I crazy here?
Comment by Jimmy Zer0 — March 24, 2007 @ 10:08 am
I saw the unconfirmed print-out for the rest of the season and Episode 23 is a Ben-centric two hour season finale. S3.22 is Charlie-centric where he is killed - or at least fatally wounded to die in 3.23.
Comment by DocH — March 24, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
I dunno….. If they literally mean ‘a magic box where your thoughts become reality’, Then I see that as a disappointing ‘Jump the Shark’ moment for Lost. Lost has dabbled in the paranormal from pretty early on, and I think that is cool (I was a big X-Files fan), but a ‘magic box’ seems too… Twilight Zone-ish. Just a little too hokey for my tastes. I hope the magic box thing proves to be a metaphor or something else.
Comment by Boxman — March 25, 2007 @ 9:59 am
Maybe the magic box is the other Others.
If our Others do what the other Others want, the other Others will give our Others what they want - or they’ll give them the sickness or something.
Basically bullying them - you can’t side against our Others if they are victims.
On a tangent: what is Danielle is part of the other Others and turns out to be a bad guy and is/was married to Jacob and effectively lied about her whole story? That twist would rule and be a gut-wrenching reveal as we realise that Ben is actually the best dad Alex could have.
Comment by Andrew — March 25, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
This has probably been proposed elsewhere, but I am starting to detect a possible influence from Tarkovsky’s film Stalker - the magetic anomalies, place that is hidden from the outside world was a one thing, but boxes (or rooms) where dream are manifest is pretty much the central theme of the film..!
Comment by Wangolini — March 26, 2007 @ 1:55 am
surley the docs right, it was a metaphor!!! it was just said so john would understand. i think that the island is some kind of portal, where the srtands of space/time interconnect hence des(and locke) jumping round in time. and as far as the metaphor goes, what people think about/wish for, the island manipulates the time lines so that person/thing gets to the island. like the spinal surgeon falling from the sky etc.
Comment by rich — March 26, 2007 @ 3:48 am
Crazy (probably stupid and contradictory) thought: What if the “other Others” are Dharma-folk (or subjects of Dharma experiments) that, instead of dying out, totally wigged-out and are, like, totally insane. I totally agree that Ben is one of the “Good Guys” in a larger war going on on the island, and I can’t wait to see that war turn from cold-war to blazing inferno.
By the way, totally off-topic… I hope that they end the season with a warm, fuzzy Christmas Eve episode, right at the end of May. See? Totally off-topic. I was just thinking about it because Nikki said it was two weeks after Christmas. Ben would make a really creepy Santa (or perhaps he could be the mean innkeeper in the Christmas pagaent!).
Comment by tomfishstory — March 29, 2007 @ 7:49 pm