What Was Aldo Researching?
We know that Aldo was reading "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawkings, but what section was he studying? Through the power of ebooks, I was able to find out!
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The section Aldo is studying is Chapter 7 - Black Holes Ain’t so Black. The chapter discusses, amongst other things, how Black Holes might bend time, as well as space. Here are the specific pages he was looking at. Click each one to open full size in another window.
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Wow, great find!
Comment by Ramon — February 8, 2007 @ 6:59 am
Time and space? Reproduction and fertility? Why? Why? Why?
Comment by AnotherOther — February 8, 2007 @ 7:33 am
So basically Lost is taking place on a bermuda like triangle in the pacific…an island that lies within this triangle in which time and space are distorted or “lost”. Just like those ships and planes that have been lost in the real bermuda trinagle. That would make sense.
Comment by crofutian — February 8, 2007 @ 8:19 am
I think it is interesting that he is making notes right below the distance from singularity. Singularity is the point of infinite curvature of space time. Like the island..? Does anyone remember the directions Ben gave Michael? Would he be going toward the event horizon? This is the area of a black hole where the escape velocity equals the speed of light.
Comment by lori — February 8, 2007 @ 10:11 am
Hey guys, read this description of a black hole from Wikipedia. It almost perfectly describes the island, except that the Others do seem able to communicate with the outside, or at least used to be able to.
“A black hole is defined to be a region of space-time where escape to the outside universe is impossible. The outer boundary of this region is called the event horizon. Nothing can move from inside the event horizon to the outside, even briefly, due to the extreme gravitational field existing within the region. For the same reason, observers outside the event horizon cannot see any events which may be happening within the event horizon; thus any energy being radiated or events happening within the region are forever unable to be seen or detected from outside. Within the black hole is a singularity, an anomalous place where matter is compressed to the degree that the known laws of physics no longer apply to it.”
Comment by John Salerno — February 8, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
Sometimes a prop is just a prop..
“Here’s a book by Hawking about time.. Just open it up like you are taking notes and concentrating real hard… Ready…and…. action!”
Comment by MB — February 8, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
“Sometimes a prop is just a prop..”
Not on Lost. And not when Mittelos is an anagram for “lost time”.
Comment by Yeti — February 8, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
I’m a little with MB on this. I’m sure the placement of the book had some thought behind it, but sometimes a cigar’s just a cigar.
“Mittelos” could very easily be an anagram for “Lost Time”. I’m totally willing to go with that.
But when three characters are in accidents with the exact same car, and the producers have to make a statement saying, “It’s a prop car.” Well, it’s just possible that we’re layering how complex we (and the writers) want this show to be.
It’s an excellent show. We’re in agreement on that. I love the little weirdnesses. I just wish there were more posts on how great the acting and directing is. I’m reluctant to be the target of a SNL skit in fifteen years where Matthew Fox and Evangeline Lilly have to tell actors portraying me to “get a life”.
And then I blow that by posting on a forum for the show. I’m a little bit of an idiot…
Comment by Robin — February 8, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Dear Yeti .. We are not discussing the anagram in this thread we are discussing the book. I am not debating the “anagram”.
Comment by MB — February 9, 2007 @ 1:14 am
“Sometimes a prop is just a prop..”
Not on Lost.
I am definitely with Yeti here. It might be that not every prop has a special meaning. But why did the creators put THAT in there, if it wouldn’t mean something?
They also could’ve put some ordinary riddle book in the show, or not?
Comment by The Ferryman — February 9, 2007 @ 5:22 am
Stephen Hawking is a herb.
Comment by ben — February 9, 2007 @ 10:08 am
All good stuff, but can I also say that this actor is one of main guys from “It’s Always Sunny in Philidelphia” one of the BEST sitcoms out there today on FX. Check that show out and keep it alive so we don’t have another Arrested Development on our hands. Also there is no way that’s just a ‘prop’ a show with this many details doesn’t just pick up any random book. The producer would make sure of that.
Comment by Dan — February 9, 2007 @ 10:20 am
ben - “Stephen Hawinking is a herb.”
With neutral words:
This comment is as intelligent as it is useless.
Comment by The Ferryman — February 9, 2007 @ 10:27 am
Alright, if this is a black hole, how did people get there? How do people keep arriving there? And how is Juliet going home? If there truly is no escape, and this knowledge of this area being a black hole is common place, then she would know she can’t leave. Also, how would she get there anyway?
Theory doesn’t work. It was just a book. If it was CLifford the big red dog would you say that the island represents Clifford’s taste bud and they are just experiencing his taste sensations? Please…
Comment by guyatwork37 — February 9, 2007 @ 10:34 am
It looks as though he is underlining an analogy about running away from the police. Seeing as how the episode concerned the escape from the Other’s off shore island, perhaps that is the significant of the prop. Lost does have a history of letting it’s viewers chase rainbows by mis/over interpreting items thought to be more significant than they really are.
Comment by Odovacer — February 9, 2007 @ 10:41 am
@guyatwork37:
Everything can pass the event horizon and get into it, but nothing can leave - normally.
But there is a certain passage where Ben Linus sent Michael to.
It’s the only way out again.
This passage is maintained with the swan station.
Since the station is gone, the passage is away and nobody can leave anymore.
Because communication to the outside world went through the passage, and the passage is now gone, the others can’t communicate anymore with the outside which is revealed in episode 3×07.
Therefore another theory:
Michael and Walt can’t leave, even with the special bearing they took, because the passage is gone.
Well, we’ll see…^^
Comment by The Ferryman — February 9, 2007 @ 10:46 am
Surely you mean it is as unintelligent as it is useless…
Comment by Protius — February 9, 2007 @ 10:48 am
About the Wikipedia article that John posted from above -
“A black hole is defined to be a region of space-time where escape to the outside universe is impossible. The outer boundary of this region is called the event horizon. Nothing can move from inside the event horizon to the outside, even briefly, due to the extreme gravitational field existing within the region. For the same reason, observers outside the event horizon cannot see any events which may be happening within the event horizon; thus any energy being radiated or events happening within the region are forever unable to be seen or detected from outside. Within the black hole is a singularity, an anomalous place where matter is compressed to the degree that the known laws of physics no longer apply to it.”
The only problem with this theory is the explosion at the end of Season 2. If that explosion inside the hatch was visible for those computer people in the snowy area to see on their computers, that blows this concept out of the water, because if they truly in a black hole and everything on the inside stays inside and no-one outside can see events inside, then the snowy area people wouldn’t have recorded it.
Or, maybe those computers have software we don’t know about that detects anomalies no matter what they are?
Also… I was talking with a friend about the catch-up episode before the new ep and didn’t the producers say that they sometimes throw stuff in the eps just to put it there and it doesn’t necessarily mean anything? I realize this all makes sense, but it could also be just fodder. I guess we’ll find out in future episodes.
Comment by Bob — February 9, 2007 @ 10:50 am
That Clifford analogy was not so good.
Comment by Hoi — February 9, 2007 @ 10:50 am
the island cannot be a black hole. first, the blonde says that the main guy said she could leave; a black hole would not be escapable. were the island a black hole everyone on it would be dead and the island would not exist. the plane would not have crashed when the timer was all the way down it would have crashed prior to that; it was sucked into it when the crazy electromagnet was working therefore you cannot assume the countdown was for a forcefield protecting the rest of the world from a black hole because right now the rest of the world would be getting sucked into the black hole.
hopefully they work the book in in a good manner. it would be difficult to use black holes in this plot and have it make sense with the science of black holes though…
Comment by bluebonics — February 9, 2007 @ 10:54 am
Sometimes a prop is just a prop..
is this your first lost episode or something? i have yet to see one book on the show that didn’t have a theme relative to the show in some way or another. the producers know that by putting little things like this in the show they will cause discussion. of course the more time people put into their show the better. they don’t just randomly, thoughtlessly put things into the show for no reason.
picture this…they are on the set and they have this scene coming up where they need a book. so someone just hanging around the set just happens to have a boring book about black holes, among other topics? i doubt it.
Comment by longnose — February 9, 2007 @ 10:54 am
@Protius
add “less” before “intelligent” ^^
Comment by The Ferryman — February 9, 2007 @ 10:59 am
I think the idea that “Black holes ain’t so black” has been expanded. In this book, I believe his premise is that energy is slowly radiated back to the universe, thus, one day all that the Black Hole consumed would be set free again. However, as I understand it (don’t take my complete word for it), is that Hawking has changed his line of thinking on this. His “newer” theory is that nothing escapes the black hole in THIS universe, but that all the “information” and matter will have been spat into another multi-verse. I saw something on the Science Channel to this effect…
However, if the “Brief History of Time” (1st Ed.) is the basis for some tatter of explanation on Lost, no worries, because it is all just entertainment. They can tighten a screw here, loosen one there, and it would all make sense on the small screen. If we wanted all of our entertainment to be scientifically approved, there would be a long line behind Fred Flinstone’s ability to generate enough power to move his stoneage hooptie!
Comment by Sonny — February 9, 2007 @ 11:01 am
they said that there was also a anagram on the episode.
mittelos = lost time
it might mean something with this black hole theory
Comment by ftrc — February 9, 2007 @ 11:20 am
Island is a black hole == interesting, but impossible.
If the island were a black hole, the gravitational forces outsice the event horizon, no matter the mass of the singularity, would be so great that it would draw the entire earth toward it. What you’d end up with is the whole world inside the event horizon.
This Aldo cat didn’t seem to bright. I doubt he was making any intelligent notes in that book
Comment by Philip — February 9, 2007 @ 11:24 am
Maybe punching in the numbers keeps the black hole disabled? Remember, the plane crash occurred when the numbers did not get punched into the computer and it seemed to be “sucked” out of the air. This would be consistent with a black hole. Same during the end of season 2 … weren’t things dropping out of the sky when they stopped keying the numbers?
Comment by Mike — February 9, 2007 @ 11:35 am
i think the focus is not on black holes but on the term “event horizon”. this is the point just at the edge of the black hole where light and/or matter is not being completely sucked in and vaccuumed into a tiny speck of nothingness. and it also cannot move away from it’s location. like the analogy to running from the police and always being one step away but never getting free. limbo, purgatory, etc. the inhabitants of the island are in the event horizon. none of this is literal, of course. i don’t see how people on planet earth are being sucked into this black hole UNLESS: there is a black hole different from the ones we know. a smaller version. the hatch that blew up was the source of all this (hence the crazy gravity that sucked everything toward it when the numbers weren’t put in). i just got an idea. i’ll continue this thought later.
Comment by longnose — February 9, 2007 @ 11:35 am
**Alright, if this is a black hole, how did people get there? How do people keep arriving there? And how is Juliet going home? If there truly is no escape, and this knowledge of this area being a black hole is common place, then she would know she can’t leave. Also, how would she get there anyway?
Theory doesn’t work. It was just a book. If it was Clifford the big red dog would you say that the island represents Clifford’s taste bud and they are just experiencing his taste sensations? Please…**
First … If it is a black hole how they got there is easy … black holes are like the washing machine and Left socks. Left socks go in, but they don’t come out
But really, going home could just be a delusion/myth/lie for the Others … a little white lie that helps keep their sanity. Some people say that dieing is the only way to “go home”. o.O
^_^ Thoughts from a Sw0rdF!sh ^_^
Comment by Sw0rdF!sh — February 9, 2007 @ 11:44 am
I’m pretty sure this is just a reference to the island. It’s a nice little easteregg and you caught it, but don’t read too much into it.
The island itself is a black hole. Once on it, nothing leaves and time seems to all but stop. I just think they were jokingly drawing the parallel. Nothing more.
Comment by Koray — February 9, 2007 @ 11:49 am
how about:
This comment is as intelligent as it is useful.
Comment by uxr — February 9, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
Any thought that each time the “Sky Turns Purple”, (i.e. electromagnetic pulse from the hatch) time on the island slows down (or speeds up) from real time. Eventually time ‘catches up’, but the effect causes the others ‘loose communication’ with the outside world.
This would be a handy plot device to explain some of the time related problems. Just a thought.
Comment by GhostFaceMilla — February 9, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
Mittelos = Mit Telos = “With purpose” … “telos” being the Greek word for “purpose” or “goal” or “end”
Comment by eccesignum — February 9, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
If they are indeed in a black hole how is death treated there? Will the characters that have died - even those we never met from plane crash - really not be dead. Or they might be on the other side?
Comment by sewdough — February 9, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
I think it’s difficult to fit certain facts in to the theories.
But, certainly the book, and the pages opened, match EXACTLY A Brief History of Time, by Stephen Hawking (learn to spell).
The fact I find contrary, is how they can receive television signals from the outside, and how the “others” have so much knowledge of events outside the island.
I would like to add that the basis of the numbers, are essentially a formula for maintaining life itself, I’m not sure whether they are variables that must always return to their original constant to maintain balanced life, or if they will destroy life if they are ever achieved in the formula for the balance of life.
Either way, such a precise choice of numbers can be referred to as a singularity, and since there are 6 numbers, that’s 6-dimensional space. Sometimes referred to as space-time 6.
To achieve a singularity in 2d, means a turning point in the gradient of a function (or graph).
In 3d, it represents a point in 3d space where the function is analytical, a singularity point.
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From Mathworld:
In general, a singularity is a point at which an equation, surface, etc., blows up or becomes degenerate. Singularities are often also called singular points.
Singularities are extremely important in complex analysis, where they characterize the possible behaviors of analytic functions. Complex singularities are points in the domain of a function where fails to be analytic. Isolated singularities may be classified as poles, essential singularities, logarithmic singularities, or removable singularities. Nonisolated singularities may arise as natural boundaries or branch cuts.
A complex function is said to be analytic on a region R if it is complex differentiable at every point in R.
If a complex function is analytic on a region R, it is infinitely differentiable in R. A complex function may fail to be analytic at one or more points through the presence of singularities, or along lines or line segments through the presence of branch cuts.
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So, if I remember rightly from that maths revision, it is possible to “branch off” if you introduce a change in the variables. Complex numbers are beyond the real x-y-z plane.
Comment by JedHawk — February 9, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
@uxr & Protius: I think you two get the point.
Comment by The Ferryman — February 9, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
the island isn’t literally a black hole. dharma created a gravity device to mimick the qualities of a black hole on a much smaller scale.
read this: http://forums.buddytv.com/showthread.php?t=6721
Comment by longnose — February 9, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Black Holes, Smack Holes! How does a Black Hole take out a specific person in a specific manner that suits the desires of persons possibly affiliated with the Dharma project. Ben and or other “Others” posess the ability, but not at all times, to manipulate the physics of the island and even in Portland. There’s more to this than just a black hole,ESP on steroids?
Comment by Compass — February 9, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
I might agree with the whole time angle. I watched the “Lost Survivor Guide” right before the new episode and one thing that seemed to stand out was when Hurley was talking to someone (I think it was Sayid) and he says something to the effect of “Where are we?” and Hurley says something like “or WHEN are we… just kidding man.”. But why show that clip in particular? It had nothing to do with what they were talking about in the guide. Might have been a tip off. Or it could be nothing.
Comment by Digital — February 9, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
More proof that lost is the dumbest show in the history of television.
Comment by Chris — February 9, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
This proves that Hiro Nakamura is actually behind it all!
Comment by Paul Martin — February 9, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
In the build up for the new season episodes we had some trailers, amongst which were flashes back to Sydney airport. One of the airport staff/stewards assisting in what looked like baggage check (?) was Henry the Other. Now how did he get from Sydney to Island?
While I like the time-event-horizon-triangle-of-doom-theory, I am going for delusional patients in a psych ward being experimented on. Especially with Hurley’s girlfriend’s boat being Desmond’s boat, etc, and she was back at the hospital with Hurley, etc.
Comment by Justin — February 9, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
@Justin:
Your’s is an already officially debunked theory, sorry.^^
Comment by The Ferryman — February 9, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
meh, u’ll all just eventually find out (albeit after several seasons), that they got sucked into the future, where all of humanity that survived exists on an island due to elevated sea levels. Hence the zoo/ark and run down equipment/stations. everyone resorts to cannibalism, and evolved apes take over.
Comment by deffy — February 9, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
The problem with them being in a Sixth Dimension is that as the dimensions increase in a linear fashion, gravity loses strength exponentially. Thus, time slowing down/speeding up wouldn’t be as prevalent.
Comment by Sonny — February 9, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
I thought the most interesting thing about the episode was when “Tom” and Jack were talking in the operating rooms observation area and when Jack asked him why they didn’t just take him to a major hospital Tom started to say they couldn’t since the sky turned purple (when the hatch blew up)
Comment by Craig — February 9, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
It’s pretty obvious to me that this would be a red herring. Remember The Last Policeman? It had nothing to even do with the show, but it was there to throw you off.
Comment by frodo — February 9, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Everybody worked until 2 o’clock in the morning… or so. So he led by the force of his example. Purple skies on the unreasonable man. Forced to lose the freedom to go through a windshield.
It is so interesting watching the struggling people. Respect for integrity. But yet, in my rational core. Easily eye opening.
If my mother raised HIM, we would be good at understanding. We would have made a big difference.
And I said, “it has got to stop”
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Comment by How do you define a legacy — February 9, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
I like my meteorological conditions to pertain to this day.
Comment by February 9, 2007 7:03 PM — February 9, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
I don’t claim to know anything about black holes, in fact i know only what i’ve read on this site.
But in a black hole, would the sun still rise and set every day with the same pattern as it does outside the black hole?
Comment by dr. nope — February 9, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
the others have chrono-ripped the space-time continuum. if we all start off with nothing, then by definition, we are all the same.
Comment by Danom Lindolef — February 9, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
you got me im-pregenated
Comment by dr. nope's mom — February 9, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
you got me im-pregenated
Comment by dr. nope's mom — February 9, 2007 @ 8:21 pm
I hate anonymous comments
Anony-mouse
Comment by anony-mouse — February 9, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
I am a democrat even though I just said I was a republican. Do you see how that is going to send a very mixed message?
Then if I may, and I MAY!……. Why?
. . .
because this is my comment
Comment by Choose an identity — February 9, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Long duration gamma-ray bursts (GRBs), first discovered in the 1970s, are the most explosive events in the Universe. Finding out what happens during these cataclysmic events is a major challenge, partly because they usually occur at the edge of the visible Universe and partly because the bursts last only a matter of seconds.
Comment by cataclysmic — February 9, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
The “black hole” easter egg might not be a literal interpretation of the situation. It might be another dimension that the island exists on. This would explain why they left Michael to go off with the boat (he has nowhere to go really), why Desmond could not escape the island even if he had a faster boat, and why boats or planes from different places of the world have crashed there in weird places. Because some of these people were caught on this “hole” of a sort, that gets them to the islands. Additionally, the hatches might indeed be “saving the world” by using machines that bring balance to the black hole so that it doesn’t “eat” our whole planet. During the implosion of the hatch a temporary instability was created, that’s why we saw the two guys in Antartica getting a reading out of this instability. Initially, employees of Dharma could get in and out of this parallel universe, but as Mr Friendly said, since the “sky turned purple” they lost contact with the outside world.
I think that this theory makes some sense, given to what we know now, and also because there was a WHOLE season dedicated to the hatch alone! The hatches are important, because they bring stability to the ecosystem of the two (or more) worlds.
Comment by Eugenia — February 9, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Maybe the whole thing is like The Truman Show. If Aldo was reading that book, I’m sure he would have had a BINGO moment and told everyone there “hey, maybe we’re in some sort of black hole…” That is, if it wasn’t just a prop. I’m really curious as to how they’re going to explain everything in the end (as all of us are…just look at these posts on ONE idea). I’m going to stick with my Truman Show theory for a little bit…
Comment by truman — February 10, 2007 @ 1:03 am
The show is a conglomerate of shows. The Truman show is more of a staged island where Truman has lived his entire life. He figures out the island after driving out of the city and the road ends to nowhere. The Lost island seems to be a place like the Bermuda triangle. Weird magnetic forces caused people to crash there. Weird healing properties. Women getting pregnant. A black hole is some ways, yet the ending of the magnetic field may have caused the travel to the outside world from to the island problemmatic for the Others (rumors are that people from the outside world may visit the island - or maybe the island isn’t what we think it is: See - The Truman show)).
The show seems to point out that the purple sky changed things in relation to magnetic field effects.
Comment by stan — February 10, 2007 @ 4:02 am
Why were my comments removed lol? Did i guess it right?
Comment by Andrew — February 13, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
Remember when Hugo and Sayid were listening to the radio and an old timey song came over the airwaves? Sayid said the signal could be coming from anywhere and Hugo says, yeah, or any time.
Maybe he wasn’t just kidding.
Comment by Jason — February 14, 2007 @ 1:41 am
How about this…
The two islands are the same, just existing slightly out of time sync.
The Hatch was the center of control for this Nicolai Telsa-esq power station.
If the two islands are indeed the same, just out of sync, then the hatch generator still exists on the “Other” island.
Comment by DC1953 — February 14, 2007 @ 7:03 am
I like sewdough’s comment about the deceased:
“If they are indeed in a black hole how is death treated there? Will the characters that have died - even those we never met from plane crash - really not be dead. Or they might be on the other side?”
Perhaps those who die on the island go back to where they all came from. That’s how you “go home”…by dying.
So, if Juliet says she is going home, then that must mean she will die.
And I’m sure Michael and Walt are stranded somewhere.
Just my $0.02.
Comment by Claudia — February 14, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Ive already come up with the right answer, and the truth about the storyline, and this website has censored all information pertaining to it, so it doesnt spoil the show. I will write it again however and see if they delete it again.
The island is at the end of time, apocalypse. The reference about mittelos split mit telos, means ‘the end / with purpose’ read the information here http://telos.edu/onlinecatalog/WhatDoesTelosMean.htm basically everyone on the island at this current time has a purpose and as soon as their purpose is gone they are killed / judged (proof eko) .. those who have lead a life with great discomfort (john locke) are given many chances to proove themself on the island, so when judgement comes to him, he is allowed to go to heaven, or enter hell. (the black smoke is death, judging them).
The reference in the brainwashing film ‘god loves you as he loved jacob’ basically god kept giving jacob a chance to prove himself, and because jacob was not perfect he kept failing, but his tasks were still fulfilled, and he still had faith in god.
http://unbound.biola.edu/index.cfm?method=commentary.showCommentaryResults&book=Genesis&book_index=01O&chapter=28
link here explaining gods love for jacob. This is much how locke is treated, john locke keeps losing faith, and is given another chance. Locke is very in touch with his spiritual side and trust in god.
The reason behind the baby storyline : basically this is the end of time, humanity are dying, to keep the human race going babies are needed.
The how they got on the island is explained by a time/space distortion, a gateway into the future and the plane crossed into it. The gateway was closed when locke let the hatch implode (proof ben saying no contact with the outside world had been made since the sky turned purple).
pressing the button saved the world due to bringing new people into the island. Without more people going there, no more babies and therefore extinction for humanity.
Ben and walt are similar, the reason why ben has majority control over the island is because he could control time/space (like walt being able to bring polar bears into their timeframe). Ben has the ability to send people home, and the reason they wanted walt is so that if ben dies they still have this ability (proof juliet bering told she can go home if she helps ben)
Hope this doesnt spoil the rest of the series.
Andrew
Comment by Andrew — February 14, 2007 @ 6:58 pm
As is written above, nothing can leave or enter a black hole. IF the island is some sort of black hole, perhaps the Dharma people found a way to control the forces of the black hole thus allowing entrance and exits. Maybe pushing the button keeps the black hole-ness of the island at bay, but when the button doesn’t get pressed then the gravitational forces are unleashed. This would explain the plane crash when Desmond didn’t press the button that time. What do you think?
Comment by AndFound — February 15, 2007 @ 10:36 am
I like it when people like Andrew claim to have everything figured out, so that when they are wrong they will be the wankers that THOUGHT they knew everything. These people always say they have the answers, but then new information is presented that proves them wrong. I expect this theory will get shot down any week now just like all the others before it.
Comment by Andrewistoocoolforschool — February 15, 2007 @ 10:39 am
To Andrew who said:
pressing the button saved the world due to bringing new people into the island. Without more people going there, no more babies and therefore extinction for humanity.
It appears that you have overlooked the fact that it was NOT pushing the button that brought people to the island. The plane is brought down when Desmond doesn’t push the button, so I guess Andrewistoocoolforschool was right on this one.
Comment by LOSTee — February 15, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
ok another theory - let’s dump the black hole thing but I think we are on the right track - So instead, perhaps the thing in the hatch was a tachyon particle generator. Even mainstream viewers could jump on the whole tachyon thing without much pushing.
The theory is that if indeed tachyons do exist –the equations for energy and momentum for such particles reveal that tachyons would accelerate as they lose energy. Conversely, whenever energy was imparted to a tachyon, it would decelerate. So this leads to the characteristics of tachyons: their possession of negative energy. Such particles will seem to travel backward in time. Some also speculate that the light transmitted on the quantum spectrum would be purple. So if they blow the particle accelerator they close the door. Also consider some books on the field of tachyon study - one being Tachyon’s providing energy for the body to heals itself. Tachyon phones etc etc
Comment by lori — February 16, 2007 @ 8:50 am
Also the anagram lost time Mittelos- could it also refer to P. Mittelstaedt - google his research
“Superluminal(?) Velocities: Tunneling time, barrier penetration, non-trivial vacua, philosophy of physics”, organized by F. W. Hehl, P. Mittelstaedt and G. Nimtz, which took place in Cologne, June 6-10, 1998.
Comment by lori — February 16, 2007 @ 9:03 am
and remember they talked about the hatch being surrounded by concrete - so are particle accelerators shielding
Comment by lori — February 16, 2007 @ 9:24 am
Okay, quite honestly, I don’t know a lot about black holes, really just the basics, and all that other stuff. But here’s my point anyway. From what I do know, we don’t understand black holes and cannot understand black holes (unless we have a major technological breakthrough). It defies all laws of physics (conservation of energy, and since when can you destroy matter or convert energy to matter or vice versa?) So…I’m open to any theories. I sincerely think that it could be anything.
Comment by redneck_gal — February 16, 2007 @ 1:25 pm
All the people on the Island are already dead. The others are the ones that have to sort them into Heaven or Hell based on, if they are truly sorry for bad things they did in there lives. Maybe they will have a chance, to fix it or go back. I don’t know.The others might be trying to give them a chance, based on different tasks they need to use to repent. Buy using a scientific system to send them back through the atmosphere.
Comment by mary preusse — February 17, 2007 @ 1:13 am
To LOSTee who said:
It appears that you have overlooked the fact that it was NOT pushing the button that brought people to the island. The plane is brought down when Desmond doesn’t push the button, so I guess Andrewistoocoolforschool was right on this one.
No unfortunatly for you im still right, the not pressing of the button just brought them down, if they are really in a different time period and only the island exists, eventually they will head the closest land mass when fuel is low. Dont forget desmond still pressed the button! and didnt have to use the key, so the gateway to normal time is still open at this point, therefore still saving the world!
walt and his father never make it back because the passageway was closed before they could escape on their boat (purple sky 2 mins after they left) .. they are back in future series, check cast listings.
My theory still fits.
You can try and debunk my theory here :
http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/feb/14/real-storyline-behind-lost/#comments
if you feel you really have grounds to, and ill try and explain them away with what i think is actually going on, i have quite a clear theory of whats going on.
Comment by Andrew — February 17, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
Mittelos Bioscience, when rearranged becomes……
IMBECILIC STONE TOES
coincidence ?
Comment by Lostit — February 19, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
Nice find Lostit
Comment by Born_to_run_108 — February 22, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
Lost = Narnia
The elctrical storm that the plane passed through was the ’snowglobe’ cover.
It is possible to leave the Island but those who go away can never return, because a year on the Island is a minute in real life, A year in real life is a millenium on the Island.
Walt will return in the very last episode as a man and find an Island uninhabbited for (perhaps) a million years.
Comment by Mark — March 28, 2007 @ 5:01 am
Lostit: I love it! A direct reference to the cartoonish B-movies four toed colossus Sayid, Jin and Sun found.
Though I think biological science with a purpose could also do it. Appreciate the greek
Comment by Odette — May 3, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
My Andrew, you are quite pleased with yourself! You actually have come up with a creative and plausible theory, smugness and self congratulatory tone aside. However, I have problems with several assumptions made in your theory (actually, it is an hypothesis, not quite a theory yet….). First, if the gateway was closed when Locke let the hatch blow up, how to explain the arrival of the helicopter from Penny’s “time”? Ben was quite surprised to hear that the ‘copter and the ship that launched it were in the island’s vicinity, so one can assume they do not belong to the Others. Further, how to explain the arrival of Locke’s father? This too occured well after the “sky had turned purple”. Second, I find very little evidence to support your assumption that the black cloud is an entity that judges the island’s inhabitants prior to “sorting” them to heaven or hell. In fact, it has only taken two lives that I can remember - many other deaths were not accompanied by any supernatural trappings at all. The biology teacher blew himself up with dynamite! Finally, I think you are way off on the baby storyline. If the Others can manipulate time so effortessly, why not simply go back to an earlier/safer time? You could in theory delay the end of the human race indefinitely in this manner. The Others are obsessed with fertility, not simply survival. I have a theory as to why, but I’ve rambled too long already.
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